# I think the fix was in at Fox News debate

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 10, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422 "2015-08-10T02:54:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/21 "2015-08-11T02:56:05Z")

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Fox News definitely goes for the hottest news anchors/commentators it can find, but as far as I can tell these women also come with damned good resumes. They’re certainly not bimbos.

For example (links to hot pics below!):

[Megyn Kelly](https://tribzap2it.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/megyn-kelly-fox-news-primetime.jpg). She has a B.A. in political science from Syracuse and a J.D. from Albany Law School. She was editor of the Albany law review and graduated with honors. She was a practicing lawyer for 9 years.

[Patti Ann Browne](https://xbradtc.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/patti-ann-browne-12.jpg?w=700&h=). She’s as hot as they come, but she also has a B.A. from Fordham where she was editor of Fordham’s literary magazine, and an M.A. from New York Institute of Technology, where she had a 4.0 GPA.

[Andrea Tantaros](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/28/06/28160AF500000578-3058419-image-a-5_1430199174162.jpg): She attended the Sorbonne and has a degree from Lehigh, and founded a crisis management company that she ran for years before joining Fox. She is fluent in four different languages.

[Kimberly Guilfoyle](http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/e/9/e9zmz53f96ucecz9.jpg?djet1p5k): graduated magna cum laude from the University of California, Davis, J.D. from the University of San Francisco School of Law. She practiced law for years and was a deputy district attorney and then an assistant district attorney in San Franscisco.

[Jenna Lee](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4LKnNOvHWdA/TJumCbnAaUI/AAAAAAAAAGg/65vmJxAsFoE/s1600/Jenna+Lee.jpg). She has a B.A. from UC Santa Barbara and a Masters in journalism from Columbia.

These are people with resumes better than average for television news personalities, male or female. The real question is how Ailes seems to be able to scoop them up before the other networks get to them.

There’s a few more on Fox that have good but not fantastic resumes. For example, [Courtney Friel](http://www.pokerarena.cz/obrazek/4e26926f94630/courtney-friel-3.jpg) only has a B.A. in Political Science from UC San Diego. But given that she is one of the most beautiful women I’ve seen, she’s forgiven. ([More evidence](https://digitalcasino.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/courtney-friel-3.jpg))

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/22 "2015-08-11T05:29:48Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Not sure I buy that. I can’t think of any non-ugly male Fox News personalities other than maybe Shep Smith. Keith Ablow is one of the ugliest people in the world. Sean Hannity makes you want to punch him long before you realize he \*deserves \*it.

I guess I didn’t make myself clear. Bill O’Reilly is not especially attractive. But if you watch him with the sound off he is _engaging_.  
As for Fox’s on-air female hires, [Joe Muto implies](http://smile.amazon.com/Atheist-FOXhole-Liberals-Eight-Year-Right-Wing/dp/0142181013/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439270913&sr=8-1&keywords=joe+muto) that some have worked out better than others, IIRC. But he liked Megyn Kelly: [INDENT]Megyn Kelly… was refreshingly free of diva-like behavior: She took the subway or hailed a cab to the office instead of demanding the company pay for a car service; she suggested good story ideas and did her own research; and instead of heading straight home after the show, she’d come to the bar with us, sometimes outlasting some of the diehards.

There was a sense that Megyn was a rising star at the network… a few years after I worked with her, she was imported to New York for good and was given a two-hour daytime block, for which she adopted a highly aggressive archconservative persona. My first thought on seeing her in action was _She’s faking it_. And my second thought was _She’s a genius_. Creating a new persona for herself was somewhat cynical but overall a brilliant career move. She was smart, talented, and beautiful, but that would only get you so far at Fox-- Ailes wanted to see a point of view as well. So Megyn started to act a little less smart and a lot more Republican when she was on-air, and suddenly there was chatter in the hallways… [/INDENT] Incidentally, she developed a somewhat milder persona (relatively speaking, this is Fox News after all) after she returned from pregnancy leave, and has continued to rise in the ranks since. John Stewart described one version as, “The meanest sorority girl ever,” and the other as, “Acquiring postpartum compassion.”

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/23 "2015-08-11T06:23:12Z")

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I agree with her on almost all areas where she differs with the Republicans. I’d describe her as being temperamentally of the right, but she makes up her own mind issue by issue, and she also asks hard questions simply because I think she’s trying to be an actual journalist.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/24 "2015-08-11T08:41:38Z")

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I’m starting to wonder what’s Fox News’ future. Now that the polls have shown Trump 1, Fox 0, in a huge bout, will Fox play fair with him or try to backstab him again? I suspect they’ll try to railroad him again, but clearly, this guy knows how to play the media very well. There’s probably a ton of division within the network.

Its not good for Fox when Rush is opposite Fox. Rush is the voice of the GOP base; his support for Trump is paramount. I’m starting to think Trump may not fare so badly in a GE if he’s this good at defying the media.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/25 "2015-08-11T16:03:30Z")

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Megyn Kelly may be smart, she may have impressive credentials, and she was certainly in the right in the Trump fracas. But let’s not forget that [she has some issues with race.](http://gawker.com/megyn-kelly-is-a-race-hustler-1482045711) Yes, it’s so important to keep in mind that Santa is white.

So she wants to be a respected journalist. Fine. Maybe she should get a job with a reputable news network. One that doesn’t have a [leg cam](http://gawker.com/fox-news-uses-a-leg-cam-to-ogle-female-panelists-legs-1469841162) on its sets.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/26 "2015-08-11T18:54:15Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Megyn Kelly may be smart, she may have impressive credentials, and she was certainly in the right in the Trump fracas. But let’s not forget that [she has some issues with race.](http://gawker.com/megyn-kelly-is-a-race-hustler-1482045711) Yes, it’s so important to keep in mind that Santa is white.
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> So she wants to be a respected journalist. Fine. Maybe she should get a job with a reputable news network. One that doesn’t have a [leg cam](http://gawker.com/fox-news-uses-a-leg-cam-to-ogle-female-panelists-legs-1469841162) on its sets.

Yeah, anyone who does 45 segments on the New Black Panther Party should have the sense to realize that she’s not even trying to be a journalist, but rather another stoker of the Right-Wing Fear Machine. Oogabooga, scary Black men coming to get you!

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/27 "2015-08-11T23:16:43Z")

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The only way to tell will be when we see how hard they go after Hillary in the first debate.

(Assuming that “front-runner” status means they all pile on you)

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-fix-was-in-at-fox-news-debate/727422/28 "2015-08-12T02:24:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> When you’re the front runner, when you’re the one grabbing the headlines, you’re going to get the attention. If he can’t deal with it, then he won’t be a front runner for long.
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> Or maybe he will be. Maybe it’s all working to his advantage - at least for now. The irony is, it just leads to more controversy and more free pub for the Donald. And since his voters aren’t a particularly discriminating bunch, they seem to get more excited with each new incident.

I don’t think he is really the frontrunner. The polls that are getting quoted now are pretty useless.

> [@](#):
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> But the problem isn’t just that the national polls at this stage in the race lack empirical power to predict the nomination; it’s also that they describe a fiction. I don’t mean to suggest that Donald Trump’s support in the polls is “fake.” I have no doubt that some people really love him or that he’d be the favorite if you held a national, winner-take-all Republican primary tomorrow. However, the “election” these polls describe is hypothetical in at least five ways:
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> [ul]  
> [li]They contemplate a vote today, but we’re currently 174 days from the Iowa caucuses.[/li][li]They contemplate a national primary, but states vote one at a time or in small groups.[/li][li]They contemplate a race with 17 candidates, but several candidates will drop out before Iowa and several more will drop out before the other states vote.[/li][li]They contemplate1 a winner-take-all vote, but most states are not winner-take-all.[/li][li]They contemplate a vote among all Republican-leaning registered voters or adults, but in fact only a small fraction of them will turn out for primaries and caucuses.[/li][li]This is why it’s exasperating that the mainstream media has become obsessed with how Trump is performing in these polls.[/li][/ul]

> **[Donald Trump Is Winning The Polls — And Losing The Nomination](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-winning-the-polls-and-losing-the-nomination/)**
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> Twelve years ago, in August 2003, Joe Lieberman led in most polls of the Democratic primary. Eight years ago, in August 2007, Rudy Giuliani maintained a clear l…

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