# I think the Iraqi Information Minister is a pisser

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 5, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684 "2003-04-05T15:57:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/121 "2003-04-09T18:56:10Z")

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All of his bombast and hyperpole may have been a smoke screen so that the Iraqi leaders could make their getaway days ago.

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**Author:** ![Payne\_N.Diaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Payne\_N.Diaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payne_N.Diaz)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/122 "2003-04-09T19:13:57Z")

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Or maybe he went to the meeting the other night with other senior officials, and now is a grease stain on what remains of the floor. Haven’t heard from Tariq Aziz lately, either…

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/123 "2003-04-10T12:08:54Z")

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I have this theory that he’s just a slightly eccentric dude who found a uniform and talked his way into a press briefing one day. He’s someone’s crazy Iraqi uncle. He’s not causing the regime any harm, so they don’t bother him. However, he’s starting to see some evidence that his conclusions may have been off, and he’s decided to lay low a little while. He will soon resurface at the next international hotspot, with a new uniform and more interesting spin.

This theory allows me to enjoy him without the moral complications of his being connected to the torture and murder of untold numbers. Aaah.

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/124 "2003-04-10T12:17:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Payne N. Diaz \*  
> **Or maybe he went to the meeting the other night with other senior officials, and now is a grease stain on what remains of the floor.**

“I am not dead. Reports that I am dead are disinformation spread by the American Infidels. I am nowhere near dead. It is normal for my head to be largely disconnected from my neck. The bandages hide simple flesh wounds. Also, the stains on my uniform are sauce from a lovely red curry I ate for lunch. Now, if you will excuse me, I feel the need to lie down.”

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/125 "2003-04-10T13:21:02Z")

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cept he couldn’t SAY that were he dead!

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/126 "2003-04-10T14:31:44Z")

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Yes. We know.

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**Author:** ![Payne\_N.Diaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Payne\_N.Diaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payne_N.Diaz)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/127 "2003-04-10T18:12:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by flodnak \*  
> \*\* “It is normal for my head to be largely disconnected from my neck.” \*\*

Hey, it’s Nearly Headless Bob!

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**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de0a6/32.png) [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/128 "2003-04-10T20:03:30Z")

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Now he’s got a fansite:

[http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/](http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/)

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/129 "2003-04-10T20:15:27Z")

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Damn, it seems to be down, or super laggy.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/130 "2003-04-10T21:19:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vanilla \*  
> \*\*Am I the only one who thinks he looks like Thurston Howell the III? \*\*

F. Murray [Abraham](http://www.imdb.com/Name?Abraham,+F.+Murray) has another part in the bag.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/131 "2003-04-10T21:33:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by PigBoy \*  
> Pardon my ignorance, but where does the name Baghdad Bob come from?

I’m guessing it comes from a history of alliteration in the naming of enemy disinformation outlets, e.g., Hanoi Hannah, Tokyo Rose.

Though, that does make me wonder what the name was in the Korean War. Pyongyang is not a name that lends itself well to a partner appellation.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/132 "2003-04-10T22:21:56Z")

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The newspaper printed a story which recounted the comments of Arabs who’d been watching Al-Jazeera for their war news. The most common comment was

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> The Iraqi Minister of Information _lied_ to us!

😃

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**Author:** ![Ankh\_Too](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Ankh\_Too](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ankh_Too)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/133 "2003-04-10T22:36:20Z")

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[hijack]

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> \*Originally posted by Punoqllads \*  
> \*\*I’m guessing it comes from a history of alliteration in the naming of enemy disinformation outlets, e.g., Hanoi Hannah, Tokyo Rose.
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> Though, that does make me wonder what the name was in the Korean War. Pyongyang is not a name that lends itself well to a partner appellation. \*\*

Seoul City Sue

About half-way down the page on this[ArmyLINK News](http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/news/Aug2000/a20000821koreaaug24-30.html) gives the date of her identification, and there is more information [here](http://www.ku.edu/~ibetext/korean-war-l/2001/03/msg00010.html).  
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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/134 "2003-04-11T15:51:42Z")

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I just happened to glance at my Dilbert appointment calendar, and this week’s cartoon suddenly reminded me of this thread …

(Dilbert and Wally are walking down the hallway.)

Dilbert: “There’s Ted. He never sent me the information he promised … Why have you ignored my request, Ted?”

Ted: “I was killed by a squadron of giant military squirrels.”

Wally: “He doesn’t respect you enough to tell a plausible lie.”

Dilbert: “I demand a _plausible_ lie!”

Ted: “OK, maybe I _wasn’t_ killed by giant military squirrels. But I _was_ imprisoned in their secret lair at the center of the Earth.”

Wally: “You can’t prove that one either way.”

Dilbert: “He did say it was a ‘secret’ lair.”

-Christian

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**Author:** ![DougAB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DougAB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougAB)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/135 "2003-04-12T00:25:01Z")

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> Damn, it seems to be down, or super laggy.

[Baghdad Bob Online Is Too Popular](http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1700&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20030411%2F182471976.htm&sc=1700)

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**Author:** ![Cavalier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Cavalier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cavalier)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/136 "2003-04-12T02:10:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Pantellerite \*  
> \*\*Now he’s got a fansite:
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> [http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/](http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/) \*\*

Now he’s got his own [T-shirt](http://www.football365.com/Fun_Games/Fun_Features/story_63528.shtml). Again, popular enough to cause problems with their server. The man is a legend.

[“They lie every day. Therefore, what they say or allege about success and advances are illusions."](http://www.football365.com/Fun_Games/MediaWatch/story_63638.shtml)

Priceless.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/137 "2003-04-12T06:06:21Z")

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> Done in the manner of playing cards, it comes with photos of the wanted men, with Mr Saddam’s son Qusay featured as the Ace of Clubs. US Brigadier-General Vincent Brooks declined to confirm\*\* if Information Minister Mohammed Said al-Sahaf, notorious for his wild claims of American defeat, was one of the jokers in the pack\*\*.

cite - [http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/iraqwar/story/0,4395,182801,00.html](http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/iraqwar/story/0,4395,182801,00.html)?

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/138 "2003-04-12T13:56:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by stolichnaya \*  
> \*\* He’s someone’s crazy Iraqi uncle…
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> This theory allows me to enjoy him without the moral complications of his being connected to the torture and murder of untold numbers. Aaah. \*\*

I believe I heard on the news yesterday (can’t tell you which one) that al-Sahaf was _not_ one of the “bad guys” pictured on the playing cards the U.S. military was handing out. This tells me that **stolichnaya’s** theory may not be far off the mark!

At least it tells us that the U.S. government doesn’t think he was a particularly important player in the Ba’athist regime, so we can join his fan club without too many “moral complications.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/139 "2003-04-12T16:07:00Z")

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CNN just ran a profile of the guys who started the fan site (apparently there’s a British one as well). Think I’m going to have to get the apron they showed “God will roast their stomaches in hell!” 😃

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-the-iraqi-information-minister-is-a-pisser/166684/140 "2003-04-16T19:15:54Z")

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[Speaking of pissers.](http://espn.go.com/page2/s/caple/030415.html) 😃

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