I told you, didn't I? [plagiarism in college]

OK, you’re going for humor i see. I thought you were being serious.

If you don’t think that it is the job of university faculty to uphold the academic integrity of the university, to ensure that public money (in the case of my university) is not spent to support academic dishonesty, and to ensure that the honest students are not placed at a comparative disadvantage by the plagiarists and other cheaters, we should probably stop this conversation right now, because i’m only interested in conversing on a rational and reasonable basis.

My university library has a whole section of its website devoted to the issue of plagiarism: what it is; how to avoid it; how to properly cite information taken from other sources. Most universities have something similar.

The version at my university has rather extensive sections on paraphrasing, copying, the difference between common knowledge and material that must be cited, and a whole range of other aspects of plagiarism. The site not only identifies these issues and gives concrete examples, but offers considerable advice on note-taking, writing strategies, and the differences between acceptable and unacceptable paraphrasing.

Most universities have something similar. On my syllabus, i not only provide a link to our university’s plagiarism guide, i also provide links to the equivalent sites at Indiana University, Northwestern, Duke and (probably the gold standard for online guides) the Online Writing Lab at Purdue. The syllabus of every faculty member i know does something similar.

In the first class of the semester, and then in each class where i announce a new piece of written work, i point out the syllabus section on academic dishonesty, and exhort the students to consult the plagiarism guide before doing their essays. I also tell them that if they have any questions about the issue, they are welcome to come to my office hours (they can bring writing samples with them, if they want) and i will spend as much time as necessary helping them understand.

It depends what the assignment is, but for the most part paraphrasing is not, by itself, plagiarism. If they paraphrase a whole document but provide citations for the paraphrasing, they might get a poor grade, or even fail the paper, for producing an inferior piece of work, but they would probably not get dinged for plagiarism.

Earlier this semester, i had a student submit a paper that was little more than a summary of a chapter in the textbook., It was a competent summary, and it was properly cited. I did not charge the student with plagiarism, because there was no cheating and no attempt to deceive. The student did, however, fail the paper because she had completely neglected to analyze and discuss the six primary source documents that had been explicitly listed as essential sources for the paper.

Now you’ve gone from being funny to being a joke. This is just ridiculous.

I might be something of a moral arbiter, but i am only a moral arbiter of the issues directly related to academic ability and academic honesty, because that is the mission of the university. A student might use drugs to stay up and study, but the answers the student gives will still be a reflection of that student’s understanding of the material. Also, on a much more prosaic level, i have no way of knowing whether a student has done this, whereas i have very clear ways of knowing that a student has plagiarized. Your pencil example is asinine, and does not even deserve the dignity of a response.

And if you think that “an individual’s judgment” should not be used in these cases, then i assume that you must also believe in fairies. Individual judgment is a crucial part of what we do at university, as in so many other areas of life. My doctor makes an individual judgment about the best course of treatment. She has guidelines to work within, but there is a subjective component and a weighing of costs and benefits in medical decisions all the time. When i assess my students’ papers, i am using judgment built up over years of reading and writing and studying and teaching in order to assess their understanding of the subject matter. That same judgment comes into play when assessing plagiarism.

And some hard-and-fast numerical rule is simply impossible, because plagiarism manifests itself very differently depending on the subject matter. I’ve heard computer scientists talk about plagiarized code, but i wouldn’t know where to even start in order to determine whether a whole bunch of computer code were plagiarized or not. I’m sure that there is some code that is so basic or fundamental that it would be considered “common knowledge” in the computer science field, and would be expected to look almost identical in the work of most students. Similarly, computer science professors probably wouldn’t recognize it when a student plagiarizes George Fredrickson’s arguments about Abraham Lincoln’s racial ideology, but i can see that straight away because i’ve read Fredrickson’s work on multiple occasions.

I’d love to get a link if that material is publicly available. If you’re uncomfortable with linking directly to your workplace’s website, I’d be just as happy receiving it by PM.
ETA: If there’d been a ‘like’ button on this board, you’d definitely get one of those from me…

Since I first posted in this thread, I’ve found two cases of plagiarism in my (virtual) stack of research papers. The first is most likely the product of poor research and writing skills. Roughly every third sentence is directly lifted from the student’s sources. I haven’t decided what the penalty will be but I won’t fail the student for the course.

The second is obviously intentional. The student copied and pasted entire paragraphs from a single source and fabricated the citations. In many cases he took the original source’s own citations and reproduced them as his own. He is so utterly clueless that he won’t have any idea why I started checking his writing–the article he plagiarized was quite esoteric and only tangentially related to the content of my course. I’ll definitely flunk him, moral arbitrator that I am, and he may be subject to further sanctions imposed by the deans office.

Next time I have a bunch of grading to do I will not post in any plagiarism threads.:smack: Clearly the gods were angered.

Oh yes it is. Google “unintentional plagiarism” and you’ll find plenty of school policies dealing with this very subject. If a student doesn’t credit their sources then they’ve plagiarized, regardless of whether they were deliberately trying to pull a fast one or just being sloppy. In purely moral terms then their intentions make a difference, but it’s not really the instructor’s job to determine how bad a person the plagiarist is and there is no practical way to determine the student’s intent. You might be surprised how many students will swear up and down that they “didn’t mean” to plagiarize even when their entire assignment consists solely of material cut and pasted from the Internet.

Most of the professors I know would go easier on a student who they believed was genuinely confused, especially if the mistake was fairly minor, but it’s still plagiarism even if they didn’t mean it to be.

I’ve PMed you a link, although to be honest, i actually think that some of the other university sites that i linked above, especially the OWL at Purdue site, are just as good as, or better than, my own university’s site. In fact, my own university’s page makes quite a few reference to the OWL site.

In my Uni, the guidelines allow for some leniency if the student is undergrad and shouldn’t be expected to know the rules and standards. Graduate student? No way.

And intent isn’t necessary to have the book thrown at you. (Gross) negligence is enough.

Unless it was a joke that went over my head, I presume it is cheating on exams.

CLASS: Advanced Research Techniques

PAPER: “Maximizing Resources,” subtitled “Don’t Reinvent the Wheel”

COMMENTS: Plagiarized from a very obscure work, and finding it is an excellent example of how to utilize available resources without reinventing the wheel. Good going!

GRADE: A

In what way is this an appropriate response to someone saying they disagree with you philosophically? Why must he be a moron to believe in the rule of law rather than the rule of man? That’s what he’s arguing, that you should have clear policies explaining what should happen to plagiarizers rather than making up your own punishment by fiat. He’s arguing that you should have rules you have to follow when it comes to this situation.

If you can make posts like this because someone dares disagree with you, why should we not believe that you would mistreat someone accused of plagiarism because they offended you in some way?

Heck, I’m pretty sure you do have rules. In any academic situation I am aware of, the teacher is not the final arbiter, and the student can appeal. You could have let him know this, but you’d rather insult him.

This post was totally uncalled for.

Thanks. You saved me the trouble of responding.

Gross negligence and “the dog ate my homework” are equivalent to intent as far as I’m concerned. But failure to quote a single sentence is not a moral failing, it’s just a technical violation deserving of a lower grade at worst. I don’t think it’s difficult to distinquish between mistakes and intentional plagiarism.

If this is your position, I’m not understanding why you disagree with mhendo.

The kind of plagiarism being discussed in this thread does not fall within the realm of a mistakes. A failure to correctly attribute a source is a different animal than substituting a person’s writing for your own. Just like any other act of cheating, it’s not unreasonable for a professor to have zero tolerance for that kind of thing.

I didn’t have much disagreement with mhendo until his last response to me. My only disagreement before that was over the consequences of plagiarism, not any level of tolerance.

I can’t recall anyone - except you - equalling failure to attribute a single sentence with plagiarism worthy of failure and suspension. You’re either strawmanning (or going for the excluded middle), or you’re failing miserably in the reading comprehension department.

It’s not difficult, but no-one is infallible. That’s why, if we fail, we normally fail on the side of leniency

Of course there are rules with respect to consequences for plagiarism. I have some leeway in determining which consequences apply–I can fail the student for the paper or I can fail the student for the course. I can’t expel the student however egregious the case may be. The rules don’t allow that. The relevant university committee can recommend that the student be expelled and the dean can do so. The rules allow for that.

The student can most certainly appeal my decision or the dean’s decision. There are rules for that too.

Professorial discretion generally works in the student’s favor. I’m most likely going to exercise mine in favor of the student whose plagiarism was the result of poor academic skills and habits.

The university can’t compel me to raise a grade or to pass a student–the rules don’t allow for that either–but if I’m clearly in the wrong it can retroactively withdraw a student from my course. I’ve never heard of this happening to anyone.

Why would anyone imagine it’s some kind of random free for all?

Sorry, but that wasn’t my argument, it was one I was responding to. Check your own reading comprehension.

Emiliana & Lamia just reminded me, I committed plagiarism in an undergraduate paper. This was before the internet, when one actually had to go a library and take notes. By hand. On paper. (god, I am old).

Anyhow, apparently I read an article in a book, didn’t see any thing particularly different from a few other sources, didn’t make any notes, didn’t list the book as a source, and manage to rewrite two or three of the sentences almost verbatim.

It was one of the most horrible and embarrassing experiences of my life. I never failed to include every book I’d even touched in my bibliography again.

Since I apparently fail in reading comprehension, I’d appreciate a pointer to any post - except yours - claiming that “failure to attribute a single sentence” = “plagiarism worthy of failing a course”.

I reread a couple of mhendo’s posts because he appears to be the spawn of Satan in this conversation, but I couldn’t find any such claim either.

I teach science and engineering, not English lit. I’ve written enough papers to realize that there’s just so many ways to describe a technology or a scientific phenomenon before you repeat either yourself or (often inadvertently) someone else. I don’t fail a student who doesn’t attribute every sentence or phrase someone might have used before.

But a lifting a whole chapter in a 50-page report from someone else’s work? You’ll go down so hard you won’t know what hit you.