I unhappily report that I am right about obesity and diet (Very long)

[Stoid]

@Drain_Bead

I wouldn’t use the dusting flour in my chiles rellenos,

I did a little experiment. I measured a quarter cup of flour, which is 26 grams of carbs. I used a pastry brush and after dipping the chiles, I brushed off as much flour as I could. Judging from the remaining flour, I might have added 4 or 5 grams of carb over all three chiles - MAYBE, since it looked to me like nearly all the flour was remaining. Which was good news. I did the same thing with the chicken wings. Brush on just the barest trace, enough to dry the skin and help with browning.

@billfish678

What?No wandering diatribe on the myriad of reasons/excuses why you can’t?

@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast

billfish, Stoid doesn’t eat humble pie.

Nothing to excuse, no pie to eat. I didn’t do a single thing that was wrong, out of line, uncalled for, rude, mean, or “poisonous”, either by design or by accident.

@Shot_From_Guns

I think if you read back through the thread, you’ll see that you mischaracterized a lot of posts.

A practice at which you excel.

@Shot_From_Guns

@stoid

I can be convinced of anything, if I’m shown convincing evidence.

Please provide evidence of at least two (2) times on this forum where you became convinced you were wrong after a discussion, and admitted it publicly.

Perhaps you consider “discussion” to be the same thing as “convincing evidence”. I don’t.

However, well-reasoned argument is a good tool for convincing me.

Unfortunately, in the substantial amount of discussion that’s occurred over the last few years, very little in the way of evidence has been offered, and when it has been it frequently turns out to be inaccurate, irrelevant, and even completely misrepresented as to content.

In place of reasoned argument, there’s been an enormous amount of repetition & insistence, which often devolves into derision and baiting. That I fail to find it persuasive should be unsurprising.

So if you’d like to take the challenge you’ve set for me in reverse, and show me (telling doesn’t cut it, that’s just more insisting and repeating, and more interpreting - plain words that speak for themselves, you just need to quote and link) the instances in which I have, first, stated that my position was factually correct, and second, been shown with minimally reputable evidence that I was wrong, and failed to acknowledge it, feel free.

@elfkin477

Are you under the impression that we all have amnesia about your food posts outside this thread? Some of us recall this thread, for example, in which you talk about making vats of beans cooked with ham hocks. Are beans low or high in carbs?

If you’re going to use that thread to try and prove something, you might want to read it first. It appears you hope to use my healthy, high-fiber, very nutritious and filling beans as evidence of some out of control eating, which of course, a lot of people tried to do in that thread. Which led to:

@needscoffee

300-400 calories of complex carbohydrates, protein, and fiber, with another 50-150 calories of protein/fat (closer to 50 if anything like the ham hocks I buy) is a good meal. She said she COOKS a potful of beans, not that she eats the whole pot in one meal. Have you never cooked a batch of something to last the week? Do you bake one slice of bread at a time? Have you ever tried to cook 1 serving of beans? You cook it by the pot. To have taken what she wrote, and twisted it into something so completely off, comes across as grasping at straws.

@Colibri

[Moderating]
As far as I can see, Stoid has stated she eats a “small cup” of beans at a time, not a whole pot. (If I have missed something, please point me to the exact quote you are referring too.) I don’t see that deliberately mischaracterizing another poster’s statements as being particularly helpful, especially on a subject as potentially inflammatory as this one. Let’s refrain from distorting what other posters have said.
Colibri
General Questions Moderator

And yet you still trot that thread out as some proof that I’ve been not only scarfing down “vats” of beans, but that I’ve been saying so and I forgot.

Really? * Really?*

Shame on you.

And SFG wonders why “discussion” doesn’t lead to my capitulation… good lord.