# I want to build Titanic II ! **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 5, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807 "2017-11-05T19:51:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/21 "2017-11-06T21:13:09Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Let’s suppose my distant Piper cousin who made billions in Silicone Valley croaks and leaves his billions to me. I live in Silicon Valley, but this Silicone Valley place sounds a lot more interesting to me. How do I get there? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/22 "2017-11-06T21:26:27Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Non-brittle rivers are way too expensive. Nonsense. Brittle rivers are easily come by in these parts, providing you want them in January or February. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/23 "2017-11-06T21:55:21Z")
It’s the transport and preservation issue that pushes up the cost. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/24 "2017-11-07T01:24:17Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > A lot of it will depend on the required material characteristics of the deck chairs. And don’t forget, Titanic II will need a band, too. What’s the 2017 song equivalent of _Nearer, My God, To Thee_? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/25 "2017-11-08T07:39:22Z")
May I suggest “Also Unsinkable!” as an advertising slogan? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/26 "2017-11-08T08:22:05Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > You might want to be careful. That 1st class parlor suite in the movie cost $4,350 in 1912. That is about $100,000 today. I wonder if I could negotiate a better deal if I let them know that the ship is going to sink? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/27 "2017-11-08T08:39:23Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I wonder if I could negotiate a better deal if I let them know that the ship is going to sink? Tell then you can get them a really good deal on a used iceberg. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/28 "2017-11-08T12:18:38Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > And don’t forget, Titanic II will need a band, too. What’s the 2017 song equivalent of _Nearer, My God, To Thee_? “Jesus, Take The Wheel?” ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/29 "2017-11-08T17:55:58Z")
How about “Drop Kick Me, Jesus (Through the Goal Posts of Life)” by [Bobby Bare](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5Y1OuQIxo)? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/30 "2017-11-08T18:39:12Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > I live in Silicon Valley, but this Silicone Valley place sounds a lot more interesting to me. How do I get there? Just drive 'til you get to the mountains. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/31 "2017-11-08T18:48:04Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [500 million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_II). > [@bob\_2](#): > > Sadly for you, someone got there first: [Titanic II: We knew it was being rebuilt, but as these amazing new designs show, it really WILL be 1912 all over again | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287163/Titanic-II-We-knew-rebuilt-amazing-new-designs-really-WILL-1912-again.html) > > It seems that that project never got past the proposal stage though - maybe you could save money by taking Palmer’s ideas as a start. > [@MedellinMike](#): > > \*Titanic \*was about 52,000 tons. Looking at the following site: > > [http://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/759-how-much-does-a-cruise-ship-cost](http://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/759-how-much-does-a-cruise-ship-cost) > > ships in that weight range look to cost about $350 million. There is some variation based I expect on the luxury level of the ship. I’d assume 1/2 a billion or less should cover you. > > As big as _Titanic_ was, it’s 1/3 to 1/2 the tonnage of a lot of the cruise ships out there now. Actually, the Chinese have beat everyone to it at an estimated cost of $161 million. > **[Romandisea Titanic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_replica_(Sichuan,_China))** > > The Romandisea Titanic is an unfinished full-scale replica of the RMS Titanic, that is located in landlocked Sichuan province, China. The project was first reported in October 2013 and formally launched in January 2014. The ship was to be the same size as the original Olympic-class ocean liner Titanic. The replica vessel was anticipated to be the centerpiece of the Romandisea resort and would have included overnight hotel accommodations. It was to be permanently docked in a reservoir In 1912, th... …and construction is already well underway [x.com](https://twitter.com/RomandiseaT2) Unfortunately, it will permanently docked so that is a significant cost savings. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/32 "2017-11-08T22:09:20Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I decide I want to re-create the _Titanic_ experience. I want to re-build it and sail from Southampton to New York. If you really want to recreate the Titanic experience, you should be planning to sail from Southampton to 41°43′55″N 49°56′45″W… ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/33 "2017-11-08T23:50:26Z")
I’m planning to build a replica of [this](https://uglyships.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/titan.jpg) ship I will name it Titan Urectum ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/34 "2017-11-09T00:37:53Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > Actually, the Chinese have beat everyone to it at an estimated cost of $161 million. > > [Romandisea Titanic - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_replica_(Sichuan,_China)) > > …and construction is already well underway [x.com](https://twitter.com/RomandiseaT2) > > Unfortunately, it will permanently docked so that is a significant cost savings. They should install it on a rail system to make sure it sinks on every cruise. Make it u[n-un-sinkable](https://masterofallscience.com/meme/S01E11/191983.jpg?b64lines=IEFyZSB5b3Ugc3VyZSB0aGUgc2hpcCB3aWxsIHNpbms_CiBJIGNhbiBhc3N1cmUgeW91IHRoZSBzaGlwIHdpbGwgc2luaywKIGFzIGl0IGhhcyBhIHRob3VzYW5kIHRpbWVzCiBiZWZvcmUuIEl0IGlzIFVOLXVuc2lua2FibGUu). ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/35 "2023-02-18T02:54:06Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > Actually, the Chinese have beat everyone to it at an estimated cost of $161 million. > > [Romandisea Titanic - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_replica_(Sichuan,_China)) Unfortunately work on this has stopped. > Another report described the ship as only about 25% complete.[[16]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romandisea_Titanic#cite_note-BELFAST-16) As of late 2022 the project’s official website was offline. A web archive image captured in October 2021 shows that no updates had been made since July of that year.[[34]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romandisea_Titanic#cite_note-34) In September 2022 a London-based financial site attempted to contact Romandisea but received no response.[[35]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romandisea_Titanic#cite_note-35) As of 2022, the official Romandisea Titanic [Twitter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter) page _@RomandiseaT2_, which occasionally posted updates and progress on the replica’s construction has been suspended.[[36]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romandisea_Titanic#cite_note-36) But I wanted to update this thread as: > Now those remains are, in a way, resurfacing, thanks to the release of more than 80 minutes of uncut footage from the first filmed voyage to the wreck. The research team behind the Titanic’s discovery, the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, released the video on Wednesday. > **[Newly released footage of a 1986 Titanic dive reveals the ship's haunting...](https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157430021/titanic-wreck-new-footage-1986)** > > The Titanic's rust-caked bow, an officer's cabin and a promenade window are part of the never-before-seen footage of the shipwreck site, which continues to slowly vanish 12,500 feet below the waves. Video is at: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kmfjjsRbKCY/maxresdefault.jpg "When Alvin visited the wreck of the Titanic") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmfjjsRbKCY) ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/36 "2023-02-18T08:09:04Z")
for completeness - [Update: Palmer's Titanic II & China's Romandisea Cancelled?](https://www.oldsaltblog.com/2022/06/update-palmers-titanic-ii-chinas-romandisea-cancelled/#:~:text=In%202012%2C%20Palmer%20announced%20the,moved%20in%20fits%20and%20starts). Sadly, there is no prospect of a maiden voyage which could have Clive Palmer recreating a collision with an iceberg. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/37 "2023-02-18T14:58:30Z")
> [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](#): > > The Titanic was built at a time when the figure for the tonnage, or volume, was still a bit less than the figure for displacement. A ship whose volume is less than its displacement can’t float. ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/38 "2023-02-18T15:43:26Z")
But to put this into perspective, you were not only paying for the voyage itself; you were also paying for accommodation during a trip that was scheduled to take seven days. Renting a luxury suite of that size in an exclusive hotel for a week will set you back a similar amount today. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stafford_cripps/32/7167_2.png) [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stafford_Cripps)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/39 "2023-02-18T21:02:52Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > A ship whose volume is less than its displacement can’t float. The Titanic’s gross tonnage was 46329. Its displacement was 52310 tons. As I explained in that post back in 2017, “tons” in the context of the volume of the ship measure a completely different thing from “tons” or “tonnes” in the context of its displacement. It’s just coincidence that the same word is used in both contexts. It might have been better if the first one was spelt “tunnage”. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807/40 "2023-02-18T21:15:20Z")
Good news, if you have something like 8M$, you can now cruise for life, living on the ship. 😱 😜 > **[Former Carnival-Owned Vessels to Become Residential Ships](https://www.cruisehive.com/former-carnival-owned-vessels-to-become-residential-ships/94460)** > > Two former Carnival-owned Holland America cruise ships will sail as residential ships, with guests able to rent a cabin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-build-titanic-ii/800807.md?page=3)