# I want to give a formal apology to the SDMB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 10, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200 "2020-01-10T01:56:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/121 "2020-01-16T21:26:13Z")

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I accept your apology but don’t believe it. Does that make sense? You apologized, and I looked at my computer screen and said to myself, “Huh, he apologized. We’ll see if actually change his stripes. Not betting on it. Is my compile done? Hmm, not yet. Might as well keep typing. La la la la. Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. Lorum ipsum something something. Still not even half done? Screw it.”

Ahem. In any case, if you decide to actually stop being an overt misogynist, that would be spiffy. It might make your username incongruous though.

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/122 "2020-01-16T21:55:36Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I don’t represent the Episcopal church in any formal or even informal way. They have been nothing but great to me and countless others over the years. I don’t even go to services that often. It is called “The thinking person’s religion” for a reason. They just break Christianity down into the core message but you get to decide how to achieve it. There is nothing cultish about it. It is like calling the Girl Scouts a cult.

Maybe if you actually studied Episcopalianism for a few minutes, you’d realize that saying it breaks “Christianity down into the core message but you get to decide how to achieve it” is a gross mischaracterization. For a better grasp of the religion in which your fiancee is a clergy member, you might start with the Catechism, found on pages 245-262 of the Book of Common Prayer and [here](https://www.bcponline.org/Misc/catechism.html). As you can see, no, you don’t “get to decide how to achieve it.”

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/123 "2020-01-16T22:59:42Z")

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You haven’t changed at all. You just want people to think you have. You’re not succeeding. I hope your fiance sees through this garbage PDQ. It sounds like the last thing she needs is another bullshitting man in her life.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/124 "2020-01-16T23:09:59Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Believe it or not, women tend to really like me in real life. I have issues of my own but I am certainly not a misogynist as people on this board try to portray me.

Do you have a better term for someone who believes all women are whores?

Oh. It’s not all women, just almost all women. Carry on! I feel so much better knowing that you don’t automatically judge all women, just most of them!

The women here must feel great as well!!! Not ALL of them are whores!!! They must feel so much better about you!

Other than the whores. But who really cares about them or what they think? They are only just the vast majority of women, after all.

But it’s justified because a couple of women treated you badly so the 3 1/2 billion other women and girls must totally be whores. Completely justified!

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/125 "2020-01-16T23:13:55Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> You just said this, two hours ago in the thread about blind dates

OK, so I’m not the only one who felt that didn’t square with this apology thread very well…

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/126 "2020-01-16T23:21:15Z")

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I’m always amazed that guys like Shag can find women to put up with their crap. I guess low self-esteem is more common than I think.

And, even more than the misogyny - I still haven’t forgiven the milk-in-a-wine-bar trainwreck. How that man has any friends is a mystery I’ll never understand.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/127 "2020-01-17T02:18:54Z")

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I, for one, appreciate Shag’s participation in the thread after the OP. I was worried I was going to have to read his posts for a while to see if this was a genuine change. Thank you for quickly making it obvious that you haven’t changed at all, so I can go back to giving your posts all the attention they deserve.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/128 "2020-01-17T04:52:44Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Be that as it may, I am making an apology for my past behavior and I honestly regret it.

Then act like it, dammit, and quit making excuses. Quit telling us how you “have a big heart” and are “great at apologizing”, “women love me”, etc etc.

Talk is cheap.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/129 "2020-01-17T10:58:27Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Be that as it may, I am making an apology for my past behavior and I honestly regret it.

This would be more credible if you hadn’t immediately followed it with…

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> I have been on this board for 20 years. Oh my goodness, I said some things that I would take back in hindsight. Call Mom!

…patronizing snark. At this point, all you seem to regret is this thread.

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> I am not sure it is possible to make an effective apology on this board unless crosses, stakes and pitchforks are involved. That is fine. We all have our issues. I am just trying to address mine in the best ways that I can.

“I’m apologizing even though I’m the **real** victim here.” Again - not really seeing the sincerity.

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/130 "2020-01-17T14:28:32Z")

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I’m glad you’ve found a spiritual home in the Episcopal church. You should look around, I don’t think the home looks like you think it does. You should also read up about apologizing. You just said you were sorry, it isn’t exactly the same thing.

If a habitually drunk and drugged school-bus driver walks out of their first AA or NA meeting saying: “I know I have a problem - I must change, and I’m already 26 minutes sober!” That’s great for the driver, and must surely feel like a monumental change to them, but no-one is going to hand them the keys to the bus any time soon. Especially if the statement is followed by “but drinking was a perfectly rational way of dealing with those little shitheads in the bus!”

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/131 "2020-01-17T15:39:24Z")

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You know exactly what you are going to get when you open a Shag thread. Yep, nothing new here.

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