# I Want to Know What all this Avengers Endgame Stuff is About **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718 "2019-05-09T11:40:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/61 "2019-05-15T16:29:20Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Yes, and what makes these movies good is that it usually comes down to who can outsmart the other one instead of who punches the hardest. Which movies? MCU movies, for the most part, seem to be all about punching cgi hordes. I’d love to see someone use their brains for practical solutions. How about some solution that is more chess-like, maneuvering the villain into a position that he is trapped. True, Stark did that in the first Iron Man, but when it comes to the big climactic battle of the premier movies, it’s all about punching innumerable interchangeable troops. And DC isn’t any better. Superman is supposed to be a 12th level thinker, and Batman is the world’s greatest detective, but do either of them show any of that in the recent films? Heck, Adam West Batman at least used his lab to solve crimes. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/62 "2019-05-15T16:36:07Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Which movies? > > MCU movies, for the most part, seem to be all about punching cgi hordes. I’d love to see someone use their brains for practical solutions. How about some solution that is more chess-like, maneuvering the villain into a position that he is trapped. True, Stark did that in the first Iron Man, but when it comes to the big climactic battle of the premier movies, it’s all about punching innumerable interchangeable troops. To name a few: Thor 2 + 3 Guardians of the Galaxy Ant-Man Doctor Strange ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/63 "2019-05-15T16:37:34Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > To name a few: > Thor 2 + 3 > Guardians of the Galaxy > Ant-Man > Doctor Strange Also, “Hail Hydra.” ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/64 "2019-05-15T16:47:41Z")
FWIW, the ones I really enjoyed were: Iron Man The Avengers Avengers Age of Ultron Captain America Civil War Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers Infinity War Avengers Endgame You will get most of the overall story from that. Personally I don’t care about the plot that much. I vaguely remember “tesseracts” and “stones” in some of the movies but had no idea it was an overall theme/arc. I’m really in it for the banter and the flashy battle scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/65 "2019-05-15T16:48:36Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Which movies? Iron Man, as you mentioned. Doctor Strange is the alpha example, as he beats his big bad by letting himself get killed hundreds over and over and over, until the bad guy gives up. The first Guardians of the Galaxy movie is won through the main cast standing around holding hands. The climax of Winter Soldier involves a lot of punching between Cap and Bucky, but ultimately Cap wins by convincing Bucky to fight his brainwashing. And there’s no big punch-'em-up with Robert Redford’s character. Ragnarok ends with a big fight, but the maneuver that gets them the win is blowing up Asgard so the villain can’t use its power anymore, which is at least interesting tactics. Civil War climaxes in a fist fight between Captain America and Iron Man, but it explicitly doesn’t solve anything, and is meant to be seen as a failure of the Avengers as a team that it got to that point. Meanwhile, Black Panther just talks to Zemo until the cops show up to arrest him, expressly making the point that nothing would be served by another fight. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/66 "2019-05-15T16:48:55Z")
…That [**The Other Waldo Pepper** ’s post] being a spoiler for how someone did something smart in Endgame. And several of the villains in _Ant-Man and the Wasp_ were largely defeated by ordinary friends of the protagonist doing ordinary-people things. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/67 "2019-05-16T09:05:05Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And there’s a scene in Thor with Thor and Jane Foster eating breakfast together in the camper she’s living in at the time. That’s about as explicit as you can get in a PG-13 movie. > > IIRC, there’s also confirmation that Dr. Strange and his love interest have slept together (in a broom closet at work, no less). Star Lord is a notorious hornddog who can’t even remember the names of the women he slept with. He only starts to settle down after he falls in love with Gamora. In Guardians of the Galaxy 2 the Ravagers visit a brothel with cyborg prostitutes. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/68 "2019-05-16T13:45:49Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Star Lord is a notorious hornddog who can’t even remember the names of the women he slept with. He only starts to settle down after he falls in love with Gamora. If you’ll lie with an A’askavariian, you’ll lie with _anyone_. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/69 "2019-05-16T15:13:49Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Star Lord is a notorious hornddog who can’t even remember the names of the women he slept with. He only starts to settle down after he falls in love with Gamora. Even then, he still defines himself as her “long-term booty call”. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/70 "2019-05-16T15:47:35Z")
Soooo it’s been a while. Did you watch any movies? Watch Endgame? How was it? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/71 "2019-05-16T16:34:49Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Star Lord is a notorious hornddog who can’t even remember the names of the women he slept with. He only starts to settle down after he falls in love with Gamora. There’s even an on-screen joke that the interior of his space ship is covered in sperm. (“If I had a black light, this place would look like a Jackson Pollack painting.”) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718/72 "2019-06-06T17:24:06Z")
So did the OP ever see the movie (or any of the lead-up movies)? If so, what are their thoughts? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-know-what-all-this-avengers-endgame-stuff-is-about/833718.md?page=3)