# I want to offer a contrarian take on this story: BLAME THE WOMAN MOM **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 22, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686 "2021-05-22T12:46:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/1 "2021-05-22T12:46:49Z")
Though, I pushed for a ban on The Daily Mail… because they’re click-bait garbage. However, they’re perfectly suited to bring stories such as this: [Heartbreaking words of boy killed in car booster seat after mother gave another driver the finger | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9606989/Heartbreaking-words-boy-killed-car-booster-seat-mother-gave-driver-finger.html) Title: Heartbreaking words of boy killed in car booster seat after mother gave another driver the finger I want to offer a contrarian take here: A LOT OF THE BLAME should GO TO THE MOM. WHEN YOU’RE A MOM, IT’S IRRESPONSIBLE TO ENGAGE IN ROAD RAGE WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS IN THE CAR THIS IS one REASON WHY. Enjoying road rage, relishing in it is something one should always avoid, but this is doubly true when you’re responsible for kids. Yes, most of the blame belongs to the feral shooter who can’t keep his emotions in check. But mom deserves blame too. 1. giving someone the finger is also setting a very bad example for your child. 2. it’s also very unwomanly conduct… ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/2 "2021-05-22T12:55:39Z")
> [@KennyT](#): > > it’s also very unwomanly conduct Kenny, please provide us with a couple of lists. One of womanly things and the other of unwomanly things. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/3 "2021-05-22T13:02:58Z")
Anyone giving someone the middle finger in front of a child is setting a bad example. Doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a woman. ---
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/4 "2021-05-22T13:04:36Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Kenny, please provide us with a couple of lists. One of womanly things and the other of unwomanly things. a. dressing inappropriately and when called out for it, complain and accuse ppl of sexism/misogyny. b. being hypocritical aka c. constantly accusing people rape d. cussing e. using feminism as a vehicle to excuse one’s own selfishness There’s more to this list for later. I need some coffee 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/5 "2021-05-22T13:09:55Z")
1. You need to stop using so many caps. 2. Try to explain what you’re talking about in your post. I had to click the link to find out what happened. To save others the trouble, I’ll explain what the article said; a woman was driving with her son in the car. The woman flipped off another driver. A passenger in that car pulled out a gun and shot at the woman’s car, hitting her son. 3. You seem to have gone out of your way to throw the blame on the wrong person here. The person who flips somebody else off in traffic is not to blame when they get shot at. The person who is to blame is the person who decided that shooting at somebody was a good response to being flipped off. 4. This had nothing to do with who was a man or a woman. Or who was a parent. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/6 "2021-05-22T13:10:11Z")
Wait. Is that list womanly or unwomanly? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/7 "2021-05-22T13:12:36Z")
> [@KennyT](#): > > > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > > > Kenny, please provide us with a couple of lists. One of womanly things and the other of unwomanly things. > > a. dressing inappropriately and when called out for it, complain and accuse ppl of sexism/misogyny. > > b. being hypocritical aka > > c. constantly accusing people rape > > d. cussing > > e. using feminism as a vehicle to excuse one’s own selfishness > > There’s more to this list for later. I need some coffee 🙂 You’re not a contrarian. You’re an idiot. Why don’t you do the world a favor. Go to your local police station and confess to some crimes. ---
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/8 "2021-05-22T13:14:50Z")
I apologize, I’m still learning. I don’t mean to suggest that mom is entirely to blame here only that she deserves PART of the blame. I would like her called out for her poor choices. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/9 "2021-05-22T13:17:26Z")
> [@KennyT](#): > > I would like her called out for her poor choices. No, you want to blame the victim. She’s the victim of an incredibly disproportionate response. Both from the shooter and now from you. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/10 "2021-05-22T13:18:10Z")
The women where I work must be really womanly. We go for weeks and weeks without false accusations of rape. cussing, OTOH… ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/11 "2021-05-22T13:36:36Z")
^^Same where I work. A few of the gals curse like sailors! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/12 "2021-05-22T13:56:15Z")
We need some finger control laws. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/13 "2021-05-22T13:57:14Z")
You’re doing trolling wrong. Your opinion should be odious, sure, but it needs to not be so odious it’s obvious you are a troll or a metamorphic rock. It should be odious, to get people to react, but not so odious not a single sole will join you and keep the “reactors” reacting. Now please keep your eyes open and look this way while I bring out this high UV lamp. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/14 "2021-05-22T13:59:04Z")
So, if the guy who fired the shot is questioned by the police, what should he tell them? ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/15 "2021-05-22T14:00:35Z")
Apparently, that the lady in question was wearing revealing clothing and was a feminist who was using her vehicle for selfish reasons. And other unwomanly stuff. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/16 "2021-05-22T14:02:51Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > if the guy who fired the shot is questioned by the police, what should he tell them? “ **BLAME THE WOMAN MOM**!” It’s always a good idea to cooperate with law enforcement. That will aid them in finding not just the woman, but the woman mom. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/17 "2021-05-22T14:04:12Z")
Partially blaming the mom isn’t the problem with your posts. Being contrarian isn’t the problem with your posts. (Checks forum) Your intellectually stunted misogyny is. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/18 "2021-05-22T14:16:58Z")
> [@naita](#): > > You’re doing trolling wrong. The lack of proper capitalization, and the unrealistically bad English are also over the top. aka ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/19 "2021-05-22T14:30:18Z")
> [@KennyT](#): > > constantly accusing people rape Is that something that woman moms shouldn’t do? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/20 "2021-05-22T14:36:10Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > > [@KennyT](#): > > > > constantly accusing people rape > > Is that something that woman moms shouldn’t do? It’s the “constantly” that’s a problem. No time for womanly mom activities, then… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686.md?page=2)