# I want to offer a contrarian take on this story: BLAME THE WOMAN MOM **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 22, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686 "2021-05-22T12:46:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/21 "2021-05-22T14:39:34Z")
My wife can cuss with the best of them. She’s also given me the finger a time or two, and she’s all woman. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/22 "2021-05-22T14:56:39Z")
What do you mean by cussing? A woman who talks dirty is hawt. And what do you man by giving you the finger? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/23 "2021-05-22T15:01:21Z")
> [@solost](#): > > My wife can cuss with the best of them. She’s also given me the finger a time or two, and she’s all woman. She can flip someone off and get her son shot She can dress inappropriately and look really hot She can accuse you of rape and cuss like a sailor She can talk to the cops after you try to nail her Blame it all on yourself cause she’s always a woman mom to me ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/24 "2021-05-22T15:14:03Z")
Where does blow job fall on the womanly/unwomanly scale exactly? And why? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/25 "2021-05-22T15:26:07Z")
> [@KennyT](#): > > > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > > > Kenny, please provide us with a couple of lists. One of womanly things and the other of unwomanly things. > > a. dressing inappropriately and when called out for it, complain and accuse ppl of sexism/misogyny. > > b. being hypocritical aka > > c. constantly accusing people rape > > d. cussing > > e. using feminism as a vehicle to excuse one’s own selfishness > > There’s more to this list for later. I need some coffee 🙂 Was that the “womanly” list or the “unwomanly” list? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/26 "2021-05-22T15:39:35Z")
I was going to say how much I liked this song and then I remembered you’re a police officer and I shouldn’t talk to you without a lawyer. As soon as Lionel Hutz gets here, I’ll give you a call. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/27 "2021-05-22T15:41:19Z")
Man dad, that was beautiful. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/28 "2021-05-22T15:52:52Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > So, if the guy who fired the shot is questioned by the police, what should he tell them? That he was in fear for his life and he was just standing his ground. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/29 "2021-05-22T16:00:18Z")
@Little_Nemo Keep coming up with genius lyrics like that and you’ll be dubbed “Weird Little\_Nemo”! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/30 "2021-05-22T16:02:32Z")
At the grocery store, last week, a lady who was paying no attention ran over my foot with her shopping cart. Because I was wearing flip-flops it hurt like heck. Now tell me: should I have followed her out to the parking lot and beaten her brains in with a baseball bat ? Because that’s what you sound like when you blame the victims in these stories. ---
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/31 "2021-05-22T16:14:53Z")
Totally different, man. ---
**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/32 "2021-05-22T16:22:42Z")
Some women are trash (just like some men are) and we no longer call them out for it. This is unfortunate. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/33 "2021-05-22T16:29:53Z")
Yep. He’s definitely getting plonked. Nice when they make it this obvious from the start; it saves all sorts of time. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/34 "2021-05-22T16:58:21Z")
But, um, aren’t you doing just that? I’m mean your bigger complaints are asinine and ridiculous, but no one is “censoring you” from speaking your mind. It’s not our fault your thoughts are foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/35 "2021-05-22T17:01:59Z")
> [@KennyT](#): > > Some women are trash (just like some men are) and we no longer call them out for it. Fair point, and we should fix that immediately. KennyT, you’re sexist trash. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/36 "2021-05-22T17:49:04Z")
So, Miller, I have a question. The tag by your name says “Sith Mod” and as I recall from the Star Wars universe, the Sith follow the dark side. However, you seem to have no patience for bigots, you call out sexist trash when you see it, as a mod you enforce the rules - you act like one of the good guys. How do you resolve this cognitive dissonance within yourself? Are you constantly torn between the opposing sides of the force? Are you the pinnacle of force evolution and you can control both sides? Also, would a bald Jedi say, “Try or try not. There is no do.”? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/37 "2021-05-22T18:43:55Z")
Let me guess, you’re single, right? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/38 "2021-05-22T18:48:04Z")
Yes, but it’s not _his_ fault. /s in case you need it. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/39 "2021-05-22T18:51:57Z")
From digging a little hole to a Project Plowshare level of excavation… ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686/40 "2021-05-22T18:56:16Z")
So curious. If the OP kept the sexist trolling out of the post would it have found some agreement? Say this was a dad with a MAGA hat who got into genitalia swinging contest with another man while with his kid? If the op in that case said most of the blame was on the shooter but a father should be aware that getting into a road rage altercation is taking on a risk of harm, not just to himself, that subjecting your child to that risk is reckless, and that he should keep his toxic masculinity in his pants at least while parenting? That he is not blameless for the tragic outcome. FWIW and a bit of an aside, this is not blaming the victim. The victim is the kid, not the parent who engaged in aggressive maybe even bullying behaviors to an unknown person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-offer-a-contrarian-take-on-this-story-blame-the-woman-mom/942686.md?page=3)