# I want to see 'Enterprise', dang it! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 12, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053 "2002-09-12T00:52:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/21 "2002-09-12T19:51:19Z")
Get this through your thick skulls. I never said that everyone should be glued to the television, weeping on their knees. I don’t give a shit if you think that news orgs are exploiting this for ratings, I’ll agree with you on that. Of course people can choose to mark the day anyway they wish. Some people actually don’t care about 9/11, or want to move on already. This has nothing to do with my opinion that I find it tasteless to whine about specials pre-empting a fucking Star Trek episode, on the first anniversary of a world altering event that affected millions of people. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/22 "2002-09-12T20:12:15Z")
What? I missed the season premiere? ::checks TV Guide’s online listings:: Whew! I’ll be able to catch the Saturday repeat, I just hope I can remember. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/23 "2002-09-12T21:01:44Z")
No No No, Jeff! It was the FIRST season! The first episode of season 2 is last week! Calm down! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/24 "2002-09-12T22:00:08Z")
You just want to see Hoshi without the top half of her uniform, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/25 "2002-09-12T22:12:05Z")
Good GOD! Is that true! OH THE PAIN!!! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/26 "2002-09-12T22:14:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*No No No, Jeff! It was the FIRST season! > > The first episode of season 2 is last week! Calm down! \*\* 😕 Oh! Somehow I got a week ahead in the listings. :o ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/27 "2002-09-12T22:15:05Z")
Damn right!!! OTOH, i am actively trying to advoid watching WTC pictures, as i don’t want to desensitize myself to the images. I’m sure i’ve seen them at least twice a week for the past year, and even purposly not looking for them i still find them constantly. I fear that people forget that people died, and i don’t want any part of that. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/28 "2002-09-12T22:15:46Z")
OK, I got the right date now. Look for a repeat of Broken Bow this Saturday, 8:00. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/29 "2002-09-12T22:16:54Z")
BTW, [Hoshi](http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/2002/09/12/1031807471.html). (SPOILERS!!!) ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2002, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/30 "2002-09-12T23:30:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > **Get this through your thick skulls.** I’ll try, but my skull is unusually thick today. \*\* > [@](#): > > I never said that everyone should be glued to the television, weeping on their knees.\*\* And I don’t think anyone said you did. Your first post was pretty non-specific about what you were upset at the OP for. I tried not to read too much into it and if you believe I implied that you meant “everyone should be glued to the television weeping on their knees” then I apologize. \*\* > [@](#): > > Of course people can choose to mark the day anyway they wish.\*\* Well, except by watching Star Trek: Enterprise that is. Because that option was taken away by the programming manager at the station in **Jonathan Chance’s** area. \*\* > [@](#): > > This has nothing to do with my opinion that I find it tasteless to whine about specials pre-empting a fucking Star Trek episode, on the first anniversary of a world altering event that affected millions of people. \*\* Honestly I was disappointed in **JC’s** attitude as well. I think one of our athiest members(sorry I don’t remember which) summed it up very well when asked why they weren’t speaking out against the outpouring of public prayers and heightened religious atmosphere not long after 9/11. “I’m not being silent becuase I believe in the Christian god. I’m being silent because I happen to know that a lot of other people DO and they need him right now.” Personally I was all prepared not to see an episode of Enterprise last night and I would have been fine with it if my local station had pre-empted it. I don’t need the reminder to remember the events of 9/11/01 or strengthen my resolve to see justice done, but others might and I’m not going to begrudge them that. I might personally feel that I would have rather have watched Enterprise, but if someone else gets benefit from the anniversary special then I’ll gladly forego my Enterprise fix. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/31 "2002-09-13T13:42:48Z")
Mmmm. Personally, I don’t think it does any good to replay what happened last September. I don’t think we’ve forgotten, and frankly, it would be nice to be able to escape the media bombardment. \*\* Tars \*\* is absolutely right: the constant repetition of these images cheapens them, and is also counter-productive. People who were seriously traumatized by the events are not likely to profit from seeing them replayed over, and over, and over again. And the rest of us aren’t, either. I’m behind you, JC - it does not imply any callousness to the horrible events of 9/11 to not want to watch a “treacly” (good word, btw) concert. I’m always annoyed when things I’d like to watch get pre-empted, even for something that is intended to be beneficial. Just because someone would rather watch a cute little fantasy story than a heartfelt tribute doesn’t mean he’s a Commie subversive. And that wanna-be sex scene in the de-contamination chamber gave me shivers. Yeah, baby. Grease me up. Kn(Paging Joe McCarthy)ckers ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/32 "2002-09-13T14:13:56Z")
You all are trying to drive me mad, aren’t you? And actually, I’m an anarcho-subversive. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/33 "2002-09-13T14:26:15Z")
**JC** has the right to be upset, but to publicly gripe about it, on the _actual_ anniversary, could be construed as tasteless. My beef is _ **only** _ that it may have been wiser to keep that particular problem to himself on the day of the year it was the most trivial. Everybody has an opinion, that was mine, I said it, lets move on before my face gets any bluer. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/34 "2002-09-13T15:33:47Z")
Actually in re-reading **JC’s** original rant it seems that the programming that was being shown was less important than the fact that the station had been advertising the intent to show Enterprise and then didn’t. Apparently **JC** missed the season’s opener and was really stoked about getting this chance to see this episode. Every indication given by the station indicated that this was indeed going to happen and then… It’s like coitus interruptus. Your SO has been teasing you all week with the promise of a passionate night together. You get together, get nekkid and start steaming up the windows and your SO’s PDA fires off an alert that reminds them they’re supposed to volunteer at the local hospital that night, and they’re already late so they just have to jump up and run. You know it happens, and you can’t really hold a grudge, but DAMN IT HURTS! That about right \*\*JC]/b]? Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/35 "2002-09-13T15:39:56Z")
Cheers, \*\* World Eater \*\* . Frankly, I’m delighted to see varying opinions, all stated intelligently. Bloody refreshing! So, regarless of whether I agree, you can be damn sure I’m glad to see a reasonable discussion. See, \*\* JC \*\* , I \* knew \* you weren’t a Commie. And take comfort: if Jeff Olson can be trusted (I’m sure he can!), looks like maybe you can catch Enterprise after all. It’s worth it for the Vaseline alone. After all, who has anything to do on a Saturday night? Not me! Kn(get me out of here before I say something stupid. Oops! Too late!)ckers ---
**Author:** ![Bomzaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Bomzaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bomzaway)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/36 "2002-09-13T16:18:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \* > \*\* The Enterprise was captained by (surprisingly enough) a good actor with practically no hair at all, but who never got a rug. Nor did he ever get laid. \*\* Oh yes he did! Pickard got laid a couple of times. He was on that planet that everyone goes to for vacations, “Raisa” I think it’s called. Anyway, he meets this woman there and, and… OMIGOD! Someone please, KILL ME!!! ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/37 "2002-09-13T17:20:54Z")
Yea, but later Q snatched her up and took her on a sight-seeing tour of the galaxy. I much prefered the episode where the metamorph(she can sense a man’s needs and desires and molds herself into the perfect woman for that man. If the man is a hornball, she will be too, if he’s a brilliant mind, she’ll be brilliant too, etc) was supposed to be given as a concubine from one world to another but accidentally opened while in transit on the Enterprise. Guess who she latched onto! [http://www.rotfl.com.au/trekker/tng/5/the\_perfect\_mate.html](http://www.rotfl.com.au/trekker/tng/5/the_perfect_mate.html) A write-up is at the above link. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/38 "2002-09-13T17:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mtgman \* > That about right **JC**? That would pretty much sum it up. I suppose if they’d mentioned it over the week or even prior to broadcast _or had it in their schedule_ I wouldn’t have minded so much. C’est la vie et c’est la guerre, right? But to build it up and then pull the ol’ bait and switch just ain’t right. And then they have **terrible** content on this ‘tribute’ is just sort of an insult atop injury. And I, for one, will NOT be able to see it Saturday night because I’ll be away. I am, for well and good, screwed blued and tattoed this time. Feel for me. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/39 "2002-09-13T18:07:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > **And I, for one, will NOT be able to see it Saturday night because I’ll be away. I am, for well and good, screwed blued and tattoed this time.** No VCR? No friends with VCRs to record it for you? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2002, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053/40 "2002-09-13T18:10:45Z")
No VCR. Got a DVD burner? Let me hear you say it… Screwed… Blued… and… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-see-enterprise-dang-it/128053.md?page=3)