# I was addicted to escorts - ask me anything **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 27, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295 "2018-03-27T20:37:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Davidngrk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davidngrk)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/221 "2018-04-03T16:50:36Z")
> [@polar\_bear](#): > > Yeah, I was wondering that too. Honestly, 25 women is an average month for some people I know. But I’m not sure if frequency or money spent is what makes an addiction. > > OP, why do you consider yourself an addict? I tried to stop several times and couldn’t. I think I have for good now tho. I had an incredible amount at risk. I could have lost my job, family, etc but I still risked it. I could have gotten robbed, mugged, etc. One of my first visits I picked up this 90lb girl named Penny. She thought we were going to have a car date. I am a big guy and cant have sex in a car. She ends up taking me to her dealer’s house in a bad part of town. We go down in his disgusting basement and have sex. I couldn’t get out of there fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/222 "2018-04-03T16:57:59Z")
> [@Davidngrk](#): > > I said early on, I wasn’t going to miss a few hundred bucks a month. Sure I could have spent more based on my income but I am cheap and wasn’t seeing high end escorts. Some months I saw 3 or 4 and then would go a few months with none. But your estimate is about 40 occurrences over five years. That averages less than once a month. That’s a pretty wimpy “addiction”. Sounds more like “it’s something I like to do sometimes”. I mean, I play golf way more often than that. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/223 "2018-04-03T17:14:14Z")
So… we have discussed your frequency of meet ups and costs. How much time did you spend finding and researching, texting, and grooming these girls? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/224 "2018-04-03T17:27:31Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > I do believe that you have met dozens of addicts, and I also believe that all of those addicts ended up injecting. Heroin is both a hell of a drug. and a drug that will make your life hell. > > However, unless you sold H, there are huge numbers of users that you have never met. When I was selling, I met **hundreds** of users. You would never think that some of these people are addicts, and they will never admit that they are either. They hide their addiction from everyone. (I recall one particularly memorable paranoid person who setup a dead drop system the CIA would have been proud of.) They work their jobs, they do all the “normal” things that people do, they just also get high on H on a regular basis. I was frankly shocked at how many there where when I started selling. In total, I’d ballpark this second group outnumbering the first by at least 2:1, if not more. Again tho, what makes you distinguish between “recreational heroin abuser” and “active heroin addict” in those hundreds of people you sold heroin to? Regular use =/ addiction. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/225 "2018-04-03T17:40:59Z")
Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away this was a thread about escorts. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/226 "2018-04-03T18:16:37Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > what makes you distinguish between “recreational heroin abuser” and “active heroin addict” in those hundreds of people you sold heroin to? The most obvious way was the reaction when I told them no, either because I was sold out or that they didn’t have cash and I wouldn’t front them. The users reacted normally, but the addicts universally and completely lost their shit, with the most extreme cases resulting in me being threatened with a weapon or a dirty needle over it. Also, aldiboronti, I saw your junior mod post and I also completely ignored it, because that’s how I roll. If you have a problem, I recommend that you report it instead of playing junior mod. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/227 "2018-04-03T18:19:57Z")
I completely ignore literally hundreds of things per year and that, sir, is not completely ignoring something. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Davidngrk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davidngrk)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/228 "2018-04-03T18:51:10Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > But your estimate is about 40 occurrences over five years. That averages less than once a month. That’s a pretty wimpy “addiction”. Sounds more like “it’s something I like to do sometimes”. I mean, I play golf way more often than that. You can label it what you want then, I called it an addiction. ---
**Author:** ![Davidngrk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davidngrk)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/229 "2018-04-03T19:00:41Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > So… we have discussed your frequency of meet ups and costs. How much time did you spend finding and researching, texting, and grooming these girls? Typically I did my “research” at work or in my hotel room if traveling. I would scour the ads, then see what reviews the provider had. Then I would text them. I used a google texting app from my laptop. When I got a text back, the app had this distinctive sound and I would get excited at that sound. You usually had to text back and forth for a bit. Some were more careful about texting. Many of them if you texted anything about money or services, you got blocked. I was good about building up a comfort level with them and could talk more openly. At the height of my involvement in the hobby, I would spend a lot of time on message boards submitting my own reviews and reading other review. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/230 "2018-04-03T19:02:01Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > The most obvious way was the reaction when I told them no, either because I was sold out or that they didn’t have cash and I wouldn’t front them. The users reacted normally, but the addicts universally and completely lost their shit, with the most extreme cases resulting in me being threatened with a weapon or a dirty needle over it. > > Also, aldiboronti, I saw your junior mod post and I also completely ignored it, because that’s how I roll. If you have a problem, I recommend that you report it instead of playing junior mod. I was in Seattle a few years back in the downtown area. My hotel was near a needle exchange. I was shocked at the people who went in and out. I would have expected people who looked homeless or otherwise like “addicts.” But the vast majority were everyday people, business people, young mothers, etc. It was very eye-opening. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/231 "2018-04-03T19:20:02Z")
> [@Davidngrk](#): > > Typically I did my “research” at work or in my hotel room if traveling. I would scour the ads, then see what reviews the provider had. Then I would text them. I used a google texting app from my laptop. When I got a text back, the app had this distinctive sound and I would get excited at that sound. You usually had to text back and forth for a bit. Some were more careful about texting. Many of them if you texted anything about money or services, you got blocked. I was good about building up a comfort level with them and could talk more openly. > At the height of my involvement in the hobby, I would spend a lot of time on message boards submitting my own reviews and reading other review. What do I know about this, really? But, it sure seems like addictive behaviour to me. Is the reason you were blocked when mentioning money, because they thought it might be law enforcement? ---
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/232 "2018-04-03T20:49:15Z")
When you arrive at an incall and the girl lets you in, what does the encounter start like? Is there small talk? Do you immediately get shown the shower? Do you immediately get naked? Do you pay up first? Are the girls dressed normally, or dressed “for the job”? Summarized, what does the encounter look like between the door opening and getting started with sex? I assume all this is on the clock already, right? Second question. Did you spend any off the clock time with these girls? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/233 "2018-04-03T21:19:19Z")
> [@polar\_bear](#): > > When you arrive at an incall and the girl lets you in, what does the encounter start like? Is there small talk? Do you immediately get shown the shower? Do you immediately get naked? Do you pay up first? Are the girls dressed normally, or dressed “for the job”? > > Summarized, what does the encounter look like between the door opening and getting started with sex? I assume all this is on the clock already, right? > Second question. Did you spend any off the clock time with these girls? She greets you at the door usually wearing lingerie. And probably a hug and a kiss. Walk in, throw the donation on the dresser, and then excuse yourself to the bathroom so she doesn’t have to count it in front of you. In the bathroom, you’ll probably see a bottle of mouthwash. take the hint. When you come back out, she goes over her “don’t list” Sex happens. Convo happens while you recharge. Sex happens again. ---
**Author:** ![Davidngrk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davidngrk)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/234 "2018-04-03T21:31:43Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > What do I know about this, really? But, it sure seems like addictive behaviour to me. > Is the reason you were blocked when mentioning money, because they thought it might be law enforcement? Some girls were smart, if you asked for their rate they would say things like “$120 donation for my time” or “120 roses” or “any money exchanged is for my time and companionship”. Other girls you could have open conversations about what acts they would do. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/235 "2018-04-03T21:38:24Z")
> [@Davidngrk](#): > > Some girls were smart, if you asked for their rate they would say things like “$120 donation for my time” or “120 roses” or “any money exchanged is for my time and companionship”. Other girls you could have open conversations about what acts they would do. Lemme guess, the smart ones were also the ones who always remembered to ask the question “Are you affiliated with any type of law enforcement”? Because if you are a cop and you get asked that, you **must** answer truthfully. It’s like, the law. ---
**Author:** ![Davidngrk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davidngrk)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/236 "2018-04-03T21:39:45Z")
> [@polar\_bear](#): > > When you arrive at an incall and the girl lets you in, what does the encounter start like? Is there small talk? Do you immediately get shown the shower? Do you immediately get naked? Do you pay up first? Are the girls dressed normally, or dressed “for the job”? > > Summarized, what does the encounter look like between the door opening and getting started with sex? I assume all this is on the clock already, right? > Second question. Did you spend any off the clock time with these girls? Arrive at her incall, she texts you room number. Enter door and make small talk. Some ask for donation up front but many I saw didn’t. Well respected providers didn’t ask for money up front. Some providers were in street clothes, some in bra/panties some already naked. I always requested lingerie or hot bra panty set. She might do a LE check. Ask you to get undressed. Make small talk for a couple minutes. I would slowly undress them and get undressed myself. I did oral only a couple girl. The girls would warm me up with oral. Some were really good and I almost popped after a few minutes. After I was good and hard, they would put a condom on for sex. I’d come and they would usually clean me up and then I would get dressed. Most girls didn’t watch the clock. Maybe because if I paid for hh, I usually popped within 15-20 minutes. I never spent any time off the clock. I knew not to get close to them. One time after seeing a provider, I left and went to Chipotle. She had same idea and was right behind me in line lol ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/237 "2018-04-03T21:41:24Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Okay, ‘hobbyist’, is hilarious! > Ha Ha Ha! > Thanks for the grins. > Ima be giggling about this all day! 🙂 No kidding. This killed me. Just so we are all on the same sticky page here, and because this _IS_ The Straight Dope Message Board, dedicated to fighting ignorance for lo these last 45 years, [THIS is a hobbyist message board](http://www.finescale.com/). [THIS is not.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?f=15) ( Both are Safe For Work ) 😃 > [@aldiboronti](#): > > Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away this was a thread about escorts. That’s very true, but it’s no longer considered canon. Now that we have the Golden Key Comics series giving us some pretty comprehensive bare-back-story, the original concept of “escorts” has been eclipsed to a great degree. A very great degree. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/238 "2018-04-03T21:44:10Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Lemme guess, the smart ones were also the ones who always remembered to ask the question “Are you affiliated with any type of law enforcement”? Because if you are a cop and you get asked that, you **must** answer truthfully. It’s like, the law. Just in case anyone missed the bemusing sarcasm in that post, [that’s a myth soundly dispelled by Snopes.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/are-you-a-cop/) ---
**Author:** ![Davidngrk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davidngrk)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/239 "2018-04-03T21:44:52Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Lemme guess, the smart ones were also the ones who always remembered to ask the question “Are you affiliated with any type of law enforcement”? Because if you are a cop and you get asked that, you **must** answer truthfully. It’s like, the law. I got asked that question a lot. I am not sure that is the law that they have to tell you. I had a provider tell me LE was getting bolder with stings. Something like undressing totally. I can’t remember what it was exactly but something you wouldn’t expect a LEO to do. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295/240 "2018-04-03T22:07:25Z")
BTW, what field of work are you in? ETA: Sorry if you’ve already mentioned this. I missed it if so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-addicted-to-escorts-ask-me-anything/811295.md?page=13)