# I was fired as Scoutmaster **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 9, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035 "2013-07-09T11:45:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/41 "2014-11-04T21:45:23Z")
welp, goes to show that just 'cos you’re an adult, don’t mean you’re grown up. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/42 "2014-11-04T22:28:40Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > In some places of the country (like, say, Minnesota) that would be normal camping weather :):eek: > > My troop had a weekend camping trip that got below zero, but we also came prepared for it, and while it was quite cold, it was also one of my favorite camping trips. This was in Alaska. Kids were wearing light jackets, school shoes, etc. I don’t know WTF the parents or the scout leaders were thinking. I remember hearing kids crying all night from the bitter cold because of inadequate sleeping bags. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/43 "2014-11-05T13:18:26Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > This was in Alaska. Kids were wearing light jackets, school shoes, etc. I don’t know WTF the parents or the scout leaders were thinking. I remember hearing kids crying all night from the bitter cold because of inadequate sleeping bags. It was Alaska and the kids didn’t know how to dress for the cold!?!?! :eek::eek::eek: ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/44 "2014-11-05T14:55:38Z")
Kids don’t always plan ahead properly. That’s why the adults are supposed to. My BSA training emphasized that the adult role is health and safety. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/45 "2014-11-05T16:10:20Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > It was Alaska and the kids didn’t know how to dress for the cold!?!?! :eek::eek::eek: It was Anchorage, not Nome. City kids are city kids the world over. My normal dress in winter as a kid was jeans and sneakers and a warm coat. And winter camping was not a normal activity. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/46 "2014-11-05T16:29:21Z")
I was Den Leader for my son’s den for two years, and it was a huge pain. The parents were, for the most part, whiny complainers that second-guessed all my decisions, complained about the activities, criticized me, etc. etc. etc. Most of it was extremely petty, and the parents that complained the most were also the ones that participated the least. After two years, I’d had it. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/47 "2014-11-07T11:02:38Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Get over it, pal. You’re assuming that whatever the old farts in Irving decide for or against gay scouts or scoutmasters has anything to do with what individual troops and boys believe. > > That kind of thing never, and I mean never came up when I was in Scouts from any official source. It didn’t come up among us boys either, other than the more or less pervasive low-grade homophobia that was rampant among suburban boys between the ages of about 11-15 in the mid-1980s, Boy Scouts or not. > > That kind of thing wasn’t ever an issue- nobody mentioned it at all. FWIW, I agree. My son’s troop was similar. Whatever the national guys decreed with regard to atheism or sexuality had no practical impact on us for the reasons you note: no one ever even mentioned it. And it wasn’t come sort of known “we never talk about such things” policy. It just never came up. I’m certain our troop had gay kids. IMO, the troop reflects the values of the leadership, and if he buys all that stuff, then it becomes an issue and he has the national stuff as a club he can use. If he doesn’t care, it doesn’t come up. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/48 "2014-11-07T14:58:08Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > welp, goes to show that just 'cos you’re an adult, don’t mean you’re grown up. What? ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/49 "2014-11-07T16:11:46Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > What? Just because someone has reached the age of 18 (or 25, or 55) doesn’t mean they have matured emotionally to a stage that we normally associate with adult behavior. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/50 "2014-11-07T17:50:41Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > Just because someone has reached the age of 18 (or 25, or 55) doesn’t mean they have matured emotionally to a stage that we normally associate with adult behavior. I’m sorry, I should have been more clear. I was wondering who the quote was directed at… the OP or those at the upper echelon of the Boy Scouts? ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/51 "2014-11-07T18:36:03Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > I’m sorry, I should have been more clear. I was wondering who the quote was directed at… the OP or those at the upper echelon of the Boy Scouts? Probably at the OP’s committee, that doesn’t want to follow things like “boy-led” or do any recruiting. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035/52 "2014-11-07T18:57:47Z")
I hope so. It just came out as slightly off, so I was hoping for clarification. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-fired-as-scoutmaster/663035.md?page=2)