# I was kidnapped! No I wasn't! YES I WAS!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937 "2004-04-02T19:04:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/41 "2004-04-03T16:57:23Z")

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> [@FilmGeek](#):
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> Am I the only one who thought she was faking from the beginning?
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> I heard a blurb about a missing student that had been attacked recently but uninjured and she had been seen leaving without her purse and coat…
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> It just all didn’t add up…

It did to me too - just before she turned up, I told a friend of mine that she had to be my witness that I was suspicious from the start… Silly, I know, but I just wanted to be on record before everyone thought I was just jumping on the suspicion bandwagon 😉

Here in Connecticut we had a case of a teacher who had been threatened by a student of hers. As he neared parole, she started receiving more threatening letters. In the end, it turned out she had written them herself, because she didn’t want him to be paroled. Ahh the irony of _her_ being in trouble and the student being exonerated.

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**Author:** ![LastStanding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8edcca/32.png) [@LastStanding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LastStanding)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/42 "2004-04-03T17:12:08Z")

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I too had strong suspicions from the very start and you can be sure that the local cops,who by the nature of their job,had these same suspicions as well.I hope she can get the mental health treatment she needs.

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**Author:** ![StinkPop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@StinkPop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StinkPop)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/43 "2004-04-03T18:11:06Z")

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> [@stinkpop](#):
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> And now you have to pay to contribute new stupidity

> [@Anita Vacation](#):
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> No you don’t. :rolleyes:

True, but apparently _you_ have paid $5 to post _your_ stupid shit.

You can thank **aenea** for this next bit, as I read the FAQs and guidelines at his/her request and now know that the BBQ Pit is the proper forum for flaming:

Fuck off with your stupid shit, you five-dollar-wasting dingbat.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/44 "2004-04-03T23:01:21Z")

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> [@StinkPop](#):
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> True, but apparently _you_ have paid $5 to post _your_ stupid shit.
> 
> You can thank **aenea** for this next bit, as I read the FAQs and guidelines at his/her request and now know that the BBQ Pit is the proper forum for flaming:
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> Fuck off with your stupid shit, you five-dollar-wasting dingbat.

Wow, you’re all about making friends and stuff, aren’tcha? You go on with your bad self there.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/45 "2004-04-03T23:11:18Z")

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Munchausen’s Syndrome, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/46 "2004-04-03T23:50:18Z")

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Who, Audrey or StinkPop?

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/47 "2004-04-03T23:51:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Munchausen’s Syndrome, maybe?

A few mental illnesses don’t present themselves until early to mid 20s. So at 20 years old, she’d be within the right age bracket for a mental illness to start manifesting itself.

Or she might just be an idiot. (Or pissed with her parents or boyfriend or what have she.)

I wonder if the “composite sketch” looks like anyone real.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/48 "2004-04-04T00:05:24Z")

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My boss had to delay the start of her vacation because her husband, a Dane county cop, was called in on the search.

What particularly pissed er off was that the cops knew Audrey was making it up within a few hours of her “rescue” on Wednesday, and on Thursday he was still going through the motions of searching for a suspect that they all knew didn’t exist. They had been planning to be on the road to the Gulf coast, heading for a week of fun in the sun.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/49 "2004-04-04T00:39:20Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Who, Audrey or StinkPop?

HAHAHAHA!!!

I don’t think anything’s wrong with her. I have nothing whatsoever to back that up, I just don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/50 "2004-04-04T01:03:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> John Stewart had the best comment on CNN watching the dog roaming around: “Okay, CNN? On Cops, they edit that stuff out.”

What I’m pissed off about is that CNN decided that coverage of dogs walking around was more important than Crossfire. :mad:

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/51 "2004-04-04T01:20:30Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Munchausen’s Syndrome, maybe?

IANAP/D, but I doubt it:

> [@](#):
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> The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV) requires that the following 3 criteria be met for the diagnosis of FD: (1) intentional production or feigning of physical or psychological signs or symptoms, (2) motivation for the behavior is to assume the sick role, and (3) absence of external incentives for the behavior (eg, economic gain, avoiding legal responsibility, improving physical well-being, as in malingering).

[cite](http://www.emedicine.com/med/byname/factitious-disorder.htm).

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/52 "2004-04-04T01:22:21Z")

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> [@Abbie Carmichael](#):
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> If she did fake it, what a bitch.
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> Hey Audrey: thanks for making sure that half the country will refuse to believe the next girl who really is kidnapped and raped!

Yeah, especially after the two girls in North Dallas.

They were “rescued” by police after calling from their cell phones from the trunk of their car. They claimed to have been kidnapped from a bar or party and placed there by the kidnapper(s).

They then recanted their story saying they’d made it all up, then, they recanted AGAIN, saying that yes, it had happened after all.

I looked and looked for an online link. Haven’t found one yet. sorry.

It really makes you wonder though, about people that are that desparate for that kind of attention.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/53 "2004-04-04T01:50:46Z")

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Grrrr I had posted a reply but the hamster ate it.

In any event:

From the [DallasNews.com](http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/wfaa040325_am_fwtrunk.bf45a4af.html) (you have to register to see the article, so I’m just quoting a bit here)

> [@](#):
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> There’s an even more bizarre twist in Wednesday’s strange abduction, which Fort Worth police later said was a hoax.
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> Two women locked in a trunk used a cell phone to call for help, then later told investigators they lied about being kidnapped. But Thursday, when those women talked to News 8, the story changed again.
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> Their complex story started with an early-morning 911 call from the trunk of a car.
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> Also Online
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> Video: Jim Douglas reports  
> Two young women were believed kidnapped. After a desperate search and miraculous recovery, just as New York talk-show producers were calling to get their story, it all fell apart.
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> “We did some final interviews,” said Fort Worth Police Detective Ken Dean. “We have them here in the office where they admitted they concocted the story altogether.”
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> The women, who identified themselves as Nicole and Bree, told News 8 their statement may have been false, but the abduction was real.
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> “We have our reasons for writing a fake statement,” said Nicole. “It’s not a hoax. Why would we lock ourselves in our own trunk?”
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> Nicole is a 21-year-old topless dancer. 23-year-old Bree is a waitress at the same strip club. Both are drug addicts; blood tests done Wednesday revealed speed, marijuana and prescription pain killers.
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> The women said they were confused and frustrated when police questioned them.

Interesting.  
The article concludes by saying: \* Fort Worth police are adding up the costs of the search, the helicopter time, and the tracing of the 911 call. If charged and convicted, the women could be liable for those costs. \*

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/54 "2004-04-04T02:39:22Z")

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Hijack  
Thanks **TellMe…** , I’m on (uGGGGHhhh) dialup, so when I have more than a few sites open, I tend to reallly lag. I did see the one where you had to register, but those seem to create the worst lag of all.

Appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/55 "2004-04-04T02:50:26Z")

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> [@CanvasShoes](#):
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> Hijack  
> Thanks **TellMe…** , I’m on (uGGGGHhhh) dialup, so when I have more than a few sites open, I tend to reallly lag. I did see the one where you had to register, but those seem to create the worst lag of all.
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> Appreciate it.

🙂 I’d die on dialup!

(Most commonly uttered phrase within earshot of me: “How many windows do you have open???”)

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/56 "2004-04-04T03:04:18Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> 🙂 I’d die on dialup!
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> (Most commonly uttered phrase within earshot of me: “How many windows do you have open???”)

Had I known. I might have seriously considered staying in Alaska, I thought things would be ultra modern in the states. ☹

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/57 "2004-04-04T03:37:53Z")

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> [@StinkPop](#):
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> You’re allowed to make completely unsubstantiated claims.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/58 "2004-04-04T21:30:22Z")

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> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> I wonder if the “composite sketch” looks like anyone real.

Some say the diagram looks like her father, i can’t find one right now, not sure about that.

but maybe she’s a republican… :eek:

[![](http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/kerry.jpg) ](http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/kerry.jpg)

[![](http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/12_25_040104_seiler_suspect.jpg) ](http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/12_25_040104_seiler_suspect.jpg)

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/59 "2004-04-05T00:17:39Z")

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> [@The Big Cheese](#):
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> Some say the diagram looks like her father, i can’t find one right now, not sure about that.
> 
> but maybe she’s a republican… :eek:
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> [http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/kerry.jpg](http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/kerry.jpg)
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> [http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/12\_25\_040104\_seiler\_suspect.jpg](http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/12_25_040104_seiler_suspect.jpg)

Egads…

Talk about a vast right wing conspiracy!

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**Author:** ![633squadron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ee59a6/32.png) [@633squadron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/633squadron)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-kidnapped-no-i-wasnt-yes-i-was/237937/60 "2004-04-05T00:54:06Z")

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> [@Ashkicker](#):
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> Maybe she should have bought a bra, because we are certainly dealing with a boob here folks.

Best line I’ve seen all week!

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