# "I was not aware I'm supposed to hate that."
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [December 8, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217 "2008-12-08T07:32:01Z")
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### Author:  [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/1 "2008-12-08T07:32:01Z")
Perhaps more Cafe Society territory, but sometimes I’ll manage to avoid the zeitgeist long enough to not know what’s in vogue to despise. What have you liked to later find out, to your surprise, that “everybody hates.”
Ctrl-Alt-Del the webcomic. The hate seems to derive from the fact that he tends to use one expression a lot (he’s called B^Uckley because of what the faces look like), and that the comic is utterly devoid of funny. Now that’s really not fair, I mean, it’s certainly no Daily Show in terms of laugh per phrase/image, but it has its moments.
Bon Jovi. I don’t even understand this one, I’m apparently supposed to find something about the band inherently funny, no one can even explain WHY. But I find at least some of their music is fairly good (I love Wanted, for instance).
Dane Cook. Okay, I kind of understand this one, he gets old after a while, and his general attitude and the way he TALKS get really annoying, but still, it’s not like he’s Satan Incarnate like most people make him out to be.
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### Author:  [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/2 "2008-12-08T08:12:56Z")
It took me a while to realize that anybody, wearing any kind of a mullet is supposed to be mocked. Don’t get me wrong, some really do look awful, but to hate them all?
Sarah Jessica Parker. The way some people make such cruel remarks about her, mostly pertaining to her looks, makes me wonder if she actually did something to some of the dopers here. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why some dopers seem to have so much hatred for her.
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### Author:  [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/3 "2008-12-08T08:48:05Z")
Pleats on slacks. I don’t particularly care for them, but as long as the trousers aren’t too tight for the person wearing them, I don’t think they look that horrible, either.
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### Author:  [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/4 "2008-12-08T13:02:50Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Dane Cook. Okay, I kind of understand this one, he gets old after a while, and his general attitude and the way he TALKS get really annoying, but still, it’s not like he’s Satan Incarnate like most people make him out to be.
I really dislike Dane Cook, then I actually gave him a shot. His _jokes_ are actually funny,\* be he delivers them like a douchbag. I think the first few times I heard him I changed the station right away without really listening to them just based on that.
\*This doesn’t count any jokes he does that were done first by other comedians.
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### Author:  [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/5 "2008-12-08T13:04:02Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> Pleats on slacks. I don’t particularly care for them, but as long as the trousers aren’t too tight for the person wearing them, I don’t think they look that horrible, either.
Oh, dear. I only own slacks with pleats and cuffs, and wear them every day. Am I a horribly abberant freak of nature?
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### Author:  [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/6 "2008-12-08T13:32:45Z")
> [@Nobody](#):
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> Sarah Jessica Parker. The way some people make such cruel remarks about her, mostly pertaining to her looks, makes me wonder if she actually did something to some of the dopers here. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why some dopers seem to have so much hatred for her.
Ditto on this. Not only do I not understand the hate people have for her, but I actually find her exceedingly attractive. She’s quite beautiful, in an unconventional way.
Regarding pleats and cuffs…I haven’t worn them in ages, but I don’t hate them as long as they fit well.
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### Author:  [@Walkabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walkabout)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/7 "2008-12-08T13:49:15Z")
The Olive Garden. OK, I know it’s not “authentic” Italian, but I’ve enjoyed the food I’ve eaten there.
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### Author:  [@grey\_ideas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grey_ideas)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/8 "2008-12-08T14:09:29Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Ctrl-Alt-Del the webcomic. The hate seems to derive from the fact that he tends to use one expression a lot (he’s called B^Uckley because of what the faces look like), and that the comic is utterly devoid of funny. Now that’s really not fair, I mean, it’s certainly no Daily Show in terms of laugh per phrase/image, but it has its moments.
That’s news to me…I’ve been reading the thing for ages and even ordered his first two books as well.
Colour me confused, in the land of web comics I think his stuff is very good.
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### Author:  [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/9 "2008-12-08T14:11:23Z")
Nickelback. I got the CD “All the Right Reasons” for Christmas two years ago and fell in love with the band. I assumed everyone else loved them, but I’ve heard, here and elsewhere, that they’re considered pretty shitty.
:o Ah well.
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### Author:  [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/10 "2008-12-08T14:15:31Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Bon Jovi. I don’t even understand this one, I’m apparently supposed to find something about the band inherently funny, no one can even explain WHY. But I find at least some of their music is fairly good (I love Wanted, for instance).
You take that back. _Right. Now._
But yes, I do get what you are going for. Sometimes I am hit with “oh that’s not cool now??” I think I like your phrase better.
– ShelliBean, world’s biggest Bon Jovi fan outside of New Jersey
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### Author:  [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/11 "2008-12-08T14:15:38Z")
[Larry King](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8814598#post8814598).
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### Author:  [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/12 "2008-12-08T14:25:28Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Bon Jovi. I don’t even understand this one, I’m apparently supposed to find something about the band inherently funny, no one can even explain WHY. But I find at least some of their music is fairly good (I love Wanted, for instance).
I love Bon Jovi! Not only is he sexy, but his band is partially responsible for one of the best things I have going on in my life right now. How can anyone not love Bon Jovi?\*
\*This is a rhetorical question that is about how much I enjoy the band, not mocking anyone else’s taste in music. Please don’t take this as an insult or write a novella about why you don’t like Bon Jovi in response to this post.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/13 "2008-12-08T14:38:29Z")
Moving thread from IMHO to Cafe Society.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/14 "2008-12-08T14:48:44Z")
There are some things that are quickly labeled “uncool” and many of the people who think they are smart/cool/etc. almost always go along with bashing those things.
One example: It seems like there is always a group that is the #1 target of music fans who think they are “experts” on pop/rock music. For a while it was Hootie and the Blowfish and later Creed or Staind. Not sure who it is now, probably Nickelback.
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### Author:  [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/15 "2008-12-08T14:58:21Z")
The ending of Steven Speilberg’s A.I.
Everybody hates it and thinks the movie should have ended with him at the bottom of the ocean. I thought the ending was great and was one of the best parts of the movie but am alone in my opinion.☹
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/16 "2008-12-08T15:12:06Z")
Maybe this is passé now, but prog rock got on the Official Shitlist and nobody can really explain why. If it isn’t The Who or Pink Floyd it’s supposed to be pretentious crap (as if banging on a guitar and screaming for a minute fifteen and calling it a song isn’t) and everyone is supposed to deride its wankery. I guess a fugue is their personal hell.
Electronic music is almost precisely the same way, except instead of being ‘wanky’ liking it automatically means you’re a club kid or a raver. The Official Shitlist apparently makes no distinction between Donna Summer and Squarepusher.
A lot of food is on the Shitlist for no good reason. Liver and brussels sprouts are two that have always rankled me, because it probably means very few people are preparing them correctly. If you cook _any_ meat until it’s charcoal and then cover it with sickly onions it’s going to be crap. The fact it was once liver has nothing to do with it. And boiling _any_ vegetable into a formless mush is going to make people hate it and vegetables in general for the duration of their natural lives. There is simply no excuse for that crap.
(I’m ignoring the whole It’s Popular Now It Sucks subgenre of this nonsense. That exists on its own level of moronic herd behavior.)
(This is likely OT, but I’ve never heard a cogent argument against Objectivism. Everyone just seems to insult Ayn Rand.)
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/17 "2008-12-08T15:19:56Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Bon Jovi. I don’t even understand this one, I’m apparently supposed to find something about the band inherently funny, no one can even explain WHY. But I find at least some of their music is fairly good (I love Wanted, for instance).
I live in New Jersey so I am unfamiliar with the hate you speak of.
It may be that old Bon Jovi sort of represents the entire hair band genre which is sort of passe.
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Dane Cook. Okay, I kind of understand this one, he gets old after a while, and his general attitude and the way he TALKS get really annoying, but still, it’s not like he’s Satan Incarnate like most people make him out to be.
I suspect that to many Dopers, Dane Cook represents every goofball dumbass in high school that everyone else thought was hilarious (because the butt of his jokes were usually the types of people Dopers associate with). Personally, I don’t know how you can’t laugh at his routine about the Cool-aid man bursting into his house.
Nickelback I just chalk up to being the latest band that is cool to hate because they are so commercially successful, along with Hooty and the Blowfish.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/18 "2008-12-08T15:24:04Z")
The really strange thing is how some bands start out cool but after they have a few hits all of a sudden they suck.
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### Author:  [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/19 "2008-12-08T15:29:36Z")
The Yankees, Red Sox, or Patriots.
I never really was a fan of the Red Sox, but I bought a baseball cap that I thought looked cool a few years before they won their first World Series in what, like 80 years? So now I can no longer wear that hat because I get so much flak for it. They think I’m a bandwagon jumper or something, but I really just liked the hat!
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### Author:  [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/20 "2008-12-08T15:34:46Z")
Apologies to those who wear them and see nothing wrong. I still do not think that pleated pants are a good look for anyone. As I’ve said before, if you’re slim, they make you look heavier or oddly shaped. If you actually are heavier or have a belly bulge, all they do is emphasize it. That’s just my opinion, based on what I’ve seen. Maybe I’m in the minority. Obviously, if you’re wearing them and you look in the mirror and like what you see, there’s no problem. They’re just not for me or the husband, I promise you!
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