# "I was not aware I'm supposed to hate that." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 8, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217 "2008-12-08T07:32:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/121 "2008-12-10T13:55:07Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I take it you’ve never been to Fark? No, and nothing I’ve ever heard about it makes me inclined to pay the site a visit. Is the hatred of Sarah Jessica Parker a Fark meme that’s been carried over here? If so, I wish people would keep it over there. As for real life, while I know plenty of people who dislike _Sex & The City_, I’ve never heard anyone express a particular dislike for Ms. Parker. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/122 "2008-12-10T14:55:01Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > As for real life, while I know plenty of people who dislike _Sex & The City_, I’ve never heard anyone express a particular dislike for Ms. Parker. You don’t watch much Family Guy either, do you? [QUOTE=Peter Griffin] “Well, they let Sarah Jessica Parker on the TV and she looks like a foot.” “No! I can’t do it. That’s like making me choose between Kirsten Dunst and Sarah Jessica Parker in a hot body/ugly face contest. I just can’t do it.” [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/123 "2008-12-10T15:28:04Z")
> [@WarmNPrickly](#): > > Olive Garden and Chili’s are both perfect when that is what I’m looking for. In defense of the tourists, it’s tough being in a strange place and not knowing which places will have what you want. I’ve been very dissapointed by going to little places that I thought would be nice. The Olive Garden and the like may be chains, but at least you know what you will get. Hey, for my mother, eating at TGIF overlooking Times Square and at Hard Rock Cafe in its previous NYC location (closer up near the park) were two of the highlights of coming to visit me in the US. She wouldn’t go into a HRC in Spain if you took her there in chains, but the idea of “a chain of american food which was started by two yanks living in London and now gone ‘back home’” tickled her pink. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/124 "2008-12-10T15:33:57Z")
So wait, now Kirsten Dunst has an ugly face? In what bizarre parallel universe does this remotely approach being true? ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/125 "2008-12-10T16:23:05Z")
> [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](#): > > So wait, now Kirsten Dunst has an ugly face? In what bizarre parallel universe does this remotely approach being true? Virtually all of my friends feel this way. I was confused at first, but I have to admit that in photos lately she’s looking kind of rough (I believe she was in rehab for alcoholism, which explains much). ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/126 "2008-12-10T16:48:54Z")
> [@shy\_guy](#): > > Virtually all of my friends feel this way. > > I was confused at first, but I have to admit that in photos lately she’s looking kind of rough (I believe she was in rehab for alcoholism, which explains much). Hm, interesting. I always thought she was a real cutie. I don’t even have a problem with her snaggleteeth. SJP on the other hand is a real dog to me. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/127 "2008-12-10T17:53:04Z")
> [@shy\_guy](#): > > Virtually all of my friends feel this way. > > I was confused at first, but I have to admit that in photos lately she’s looking kind of rough (I believe she was in rehab for alcoholism, which explains much). Wow. Who knew? I think she’s cute. No hint of a party lifestyle that I can see. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/128 "2008-12-11T03:48:03Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > You don’t watch much Family Guy either, do you? No. If I were writing “you’re supposed to hate that” memos to the world, _Family Guy_ would probably be on the list. I don’t think all the weirdly vitriolic attacks on Sarah Jessica Parker’s appearance I’ve seen here on the SDMB could possibly all be _Family Guy_ jokes, though. I think it’s just what I said before, that she’s hated by some for daring to be in the public eye despite not being conventionally beautiful. Because heaven forbid anyone ever have to look at an average looking person on television. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/129 "2008-12-11T07:31:34Z")
I dunno…I’ve heard and read Michael Moore countless times, and while he’s one of the most opinionated people I’ve ever heard of (you could even say “radical”, and with this current political climate, you wouldn’t be far off), but I’ve never seen him come across as strident, or overemotional, or overcritical. Keith Olbermann’s about a hundred times as strident as Moore (it reached a downright unnerving level this past election), and Ted Rall is a notorious rabble rouser, yet I’ve never run into more than occasional criticism of either here. Agree with hair metal, synthesizers, disco, etc. Heck, some music was just _meant_ to be fun 'n free. Actually, not some music, a helluva lot of music. That’s why you’ll never see me criticize pop trance…dude, it’s Pop! Trance! I mentioned this before: I completely fail to understand why _anyone_ has such a huge emotional stake in which current generation video game consoles are doing well and which aren’t. You’re a _customer_, dammit. You should be looking over game reviews, scheduled release dates, and ads, not stock tickers and corporate press releases. As for brussels sprouts…how many places do you know that _have_ them? Nobody had to be taught to hate them; that was pretty natural for most people. (I will say they’re a bit overrepresented in kids’ cartoons. Lettuce needs more love! 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/130 "2008-12-11T07:46:48Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > The new, exciting music to come out of the 1970s wasn’t punk, it was _disco_. Punk was explicitly a back-to-basics roots rock revival. It was rockabilly by people who didn’t like country. Disco, on the other hand, took rhythms and instruments woefully underrepresented in English-language music to that point and brought them to the fore. Punk was a reboot, but disco formed an entirely new continuity. Oh, nonsense. Disco was and remains mindless robotic dance-pap for those who couldn’t stand music that had any thought involved with it, or guts, or anything beyond slick commercialized rhythmrrea. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/131 "2008-12-11T07:49:45Z")
Disco is music for people who enjoy that style of music. Just like any other style. This whole conflation of some kind of dimension of intelligence or moral courage with musical taste is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/132 "2008-12-11T07:59:03Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I don’t think all the weirdly vitriolic attacks on Sarah Jessica Parker’s appearance I’ve seen here on the SDMB could possibly all be _Family Guy_ jokes, though. I think it’s just what I said before, that she’s hated by some for daring to be in the public eye despite not being conventionally beautiful. Because heaven forbid anyone ever have to look at an average looking person on television. Just my opinion but I think to many males, Sarah Jessica Parker gives off a “high maintenance” vibe that makes her physical appearance more objectionable. She just doesn’t seem to be attractive enough to be worth all the trouble. Of course, most of this has to do with SJP’s role on “Sex and the City” and the fact her public image is so meshed with that of her character, Carrie Bradshaw, that many people can’t tell where Carrie ends and SJP begins. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/133 "2008-12-11T11:05:54Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > Just my opinion but I think to many males, Sarah Jessica Parker gives off a “high maintenance” vibe that makes her physical appearance more objectionable. She just doesn’t seem to be attractive enough to be worth all the trouble. > > Of course, most of this has to do with SJP’s role on “Sex and the City” and the fact her public image is so meshed with that of her character, Carrie Bradshaw, that many people can’t tell where Carrie ends and SJP begins. That may be, however…everything I’ve ever read about her says that she’s about as down to Earth as a star could be. She’s very family-oriented. In fact, I saw a piece on her that showed her whistling down a cab for Ferris. She said she does it all the time. She came off as loving and devoted, and Ferris came off as rather aloof, in my opinion. However, I can see how someone would think the opposite if all they knew of her was the Carrie character. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/134 "2008-12-11T12:01:09Z")
> [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](#): > > So wait, now Kirsten Dunst has an ugly face? In what bizarre parallel universe does this remotely approach being true? Not ugly (to me), but she and Julia Stiles have that same “Face Painted On a Skillet” look that I find off-putting. Big round head, flat face. Julia gets a little bit of a pass for being a decent actress without jacked-up teeth, though. I’m sure that pass from me gives her an overwhelming flood of relief, too. (:rolleyes: at myself) ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/135 "2008-12-11T15:55:49Z")
I thought both Con Air and The Rock were fun, entertaining movies. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/136 "2008-12-11T18:41:13Z")
I love Starship’s “We built this city”. ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/137 "2008-12-11T18:59:35Z")
Apparently I’m supposed to hate the piano/guitar “solo” part in the song Layla! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/138 "2008-12-11T19:15:45Z")
> [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](#): > > So wait, now Kirsten Dunst has an ugly face? In what bizarre parallel universe does this remotely approach being true? Not “ugly” it was a “hot body, **weird** face” contest. I like her face, but you have to admit there’s something not quite normal about either of their faces. Not necessarily in a BAD way, they’re just not the way most faces seem to be structured (at least Hollywood faces). Also, I’ve seen the Sarah Jessica Parker thing around not on this site. [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/284-sex-and-the-city](http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/284-sex-and-the-city) for example. IIRC it goes something like: “And Sarah Jessica Parker, who every woman thinks is a sex symbol, and every guy thinks is… not a sex symbol!” (Note for the ill informed and slow of it-getting: every movie he’s seen is the "greatest movie [he’s] ever seen in [his] life) ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/139 "2008-12-11T19:19:01Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Not “ugly” it was a “hot body, **weird** face” contest. I like her face, but you have to admit there’s something not quite normal about either of their faces. Not necessarily in a BAD way, they’re just not the way most faces seem to be structured (at least Hollywood faces). > > … Weird, ugly. I still don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-not-aware-im-supposed-to-hate-that/476217/140 "2008-12-11T19:19:47Z")
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