# I was thinking of trying Isagenix®

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 27, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820 "2014-01-27T04:10:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/21 "2014-01-27T14:04:27Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Okay - “waste of money” angle aside, **runner pat** , have you tried it?

I’m sure that if you check out enough weight loss and alt med forums, someone (a user or a spammer for the company, you’ll never know which) will tell you it’s good for what ails you, and that so many toxins poured out of their body that they had to have their house declared a toxic waste cleanup site.

On the Dope however, we’re all hirelings of Big Pharma, paid to diss wonder supplements\* in order to boost sales of toxic pharmaceuticals.  
\*gotta love their “telomere support” product. It sounds so wonderfully science-y!

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/22 "2014-01-27T14:12:22Z")

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**It absolutey works; you WILL lose weight!!**

Because you’re not eating enough calories and you have the shits.

My brother uses/d it, which is disappointing because I would have told you he knows better. Next time he brings it up I’m going to have to try to straighten him out.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/23 "2014-01-27T14:23:32Z")

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Thank you all.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/24 "2014-01-27T14:31:55Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> **runner pat** - please go away. We all get that you are opposed to this type of product. I was looking for _constructive_ feed back.

:rolleyes:

It works great so long as you use it along with a moderate amount of healthy food each day exercise a few days a week. That method works even better if you skip the product entirely. Sorry, there is no magic product that will help you lose weight and still let you eat a too much crappy food and be a couch potato.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/25 "2014-01-27T16:27:01Z")

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I know people who absolutely swear by Isogenix. One is an ultrarunner. The other is a hairdresser. They will tell you all the wonderful things about the products and how much better they feel since starting the program. The hairdresser went to a convention and learned SO MUCH about the marketing aspect of the company and how to grow her own business with it. It has made a huge, positive difference in their lives.

That being said: I personally think it (and all the other MLM-based health programs - Herbalife, Visi, etc.) is total BS. IMHO, it’s psychosomatic. You’re paying a shit-ton of money for these products so OF COURSE they’re going to work!

If dropping loads of cash on a product motivates you to also eat healthy and exercise - go for it. But like other posters said there is no “magic potion” for being healthy.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/26 "2014-01-27T16:27:03Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Thank you all.

You mad, bro? 😉

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/27 "2014-01-27T16:34:29Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Has anyone tried it for either weight loss or general detoxing? Pros and Cons please. Thanks in advance.)

What do you mean by “general detoxing”? What toxic substances are you trying to expel from your body?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/28 "2014-01-27T16:40:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What do you mean by “general detoxing”? What toxic substances are you trying to expel from your body?

[Oxygen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity)?

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/29 "2014-01-27T17:53:34Z")

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My boyfriend and I are nearing the end of a 21 day detox diet (though I hesitate to use the word diet). For 21 days you eliminate all the typical allergen-causing foods (dairy, gluten, nightshades, caffeine, corn, soy, etc). You have two liquid meals a day (shake or blended soup) and one solid meal, plus you can have two snacks if you want. Of course, as with anything, there are folks who take it WAAAAAAAYYY too seriously- buying expensive water filtration systems, tossing out commercial bath products and using natural substitutions (like washing your hair with apple cider vinegar), and getting colonics. And of course if you’re lazy as hell there are packages you can buy with pre-mixed shakes and various supplements, but we’re skipping all that and just going natural.

In the slightly more than two weeks we’ve done this, my boyfriend has dropped weight like he’s been cutting off body parts; I’ve lost some weight but way more in inches. Our diet, which was fairly healthy to begin with, is now mostly organic fruits and veggies, as well as local meats. I haven’t had to take any acid reducers (was on them daily), my skin looks great, and most importantly my boyfriend is sleeping through the night, which he hasn’t done since getting back from Iraq in 2006. We haven’t been hungry at all, and I for one am putting WAY more calories in now than I did before. In fact, the folks who created the diet stress that it’s not a weight loss program, though a lot of people lose weight on it.

In a week we’ll start reintroducing foods to see what agrees with us and what doesn’t, and we’ll just totally eliminate whatever causes a reaction.

I say save the money you plan on spending on this scheme and put it toward a healthy, organic diet. It’s way better for you in the long run.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/30 "2014-01-27T18:22:57Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Okay - I get it. You’ve made your point.
> 
> I’d like to hear from someone who has tried it.

Haters be hatin’ yo. It _ **is** _ absolute, money-stealing garbage (unless you are one of those rare humans without functioning livers or kidneys), but these folks didn’t have to be so _mean_ about it! ☹

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/31 "2014-01-27T18:31:12Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Haters be hatin’ yo. It _ **is** _ absolute, money-stealing garbage (unless you are one of those rare humans without functioning livers or kidneys), but these folks didn’t have to be so _mean_ about it! ☹

I’m sorry, but it’s like asking for the upside and the downside of driving the wrong way on the freeway at night with your lights off, then complaining when there’s a multitude of opponents not only explaining why it’s a bad idea, but also explaining why you shouldn’t listen to anyone telling you it’s a _good_ idea.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/32 "2014-01-27T18:38:53Z")

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Yes, I took it and lost weight. I went from 180 unhealthy pounds down to a trim 77. My wife says that my eyes and skin are the loveliest shade of yellow she’s ever seen, and I no longer have to spend money on manicures because my nails fell out. Sure it’s expensive, but the results are undeniable and lots of people today have third mortgages. If my hands weren’t withered claws, I’d give Isagenix two thumbs up!

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/33 "2014-01-27T19:36:27Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> \*gotta love their “telomere support” product. It sounds so wonderfully science-y!

It’s a Christmas telomiracle!

Seriously **anyrose** , “give me constructive feedback” does not = “tell me exclusively what I want to hear.”

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/34 "2014-01-27T19:44:03Z")

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My husband did the 30 day weight loss and it did a good job. He has terrible eating habits and in the 30 days he dropped around 20 pounds (he has about 40 or 50 to lose). I don’t like the whole detox and cleanse idea, but a few of my fitness fanatic friends use their Protein shakes - it’s a good product.

You could do a similar one by going to a sports nutrition store and getting some meal replacement shakes and vitamins. I do a shake a breakfast, but I eat pretty “clean” most of the time anyway.

For the month, it was about $300.00, which was less than he would spend going through the drive thru at lunches for the month.

As with any “diet”, if you go off or revert back, the weight will come back, so you either need to commit to doing two meals in “shake” form for life, or figure out something else.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/35 "2014-01-27T21:23:38Z")

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If you just wanna lose weight fast and with minimal added expense, The Dukan Diet ( a modified protein sparing fast) gives incredible results. Not healthy, but undeniably effective with minimal discomfort/expense.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/36 "2014-01-27T22:12:44Z")

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There is no question that a living off of an average of 1000 calories a day will result in weight loss. That’s what this plan does. Two glorified vitamin, mineral and fiber supplemented whey protein shakes a day (with 56 gram of protein total there), one moderate real meal of 400 to 600 calories and occassion “fast” days with their crap cleanse products.

There are many other low calorie meal replacement products that provide similar amounts of protein and added vitamins for significantly less money. Some people do well with the fairly rapid initial weight loss that such low calorie plans will achieve but even very low calorie diet plans (like under 800/day) will slow down the loss after a few weeks and end up averaging no more than 2 to 3 pounds a week over a 12 to 14 week period, similar to a moderate real food diet plan. No liquid meal replacent plan addresses the core issues that cause the obesity and therefore, without additional education and supports, most who use them regain the lost weight fairly quickly.

This particular product charges more for the pseudoscience woo but delivers little value added.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/38 "2014-01-27T23:39:48Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> _starts counting down to the first spammer_

> [@freeindeed](#):
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> hi, we’ve been using isagenix for a few years now.  
> [www.NutritionalRebalancing.com](http://www.NutritionalRebalancing.com) U: focus P: focus  
> you’ll see my contact info inside.  
> thanks,

Who had 17 hours and 58 minutes in the pool?

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Why_Bother)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/39 "2014-01-27T23:50:21Z")

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> [@freeindeed](#):
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> hi, we’ve been using isagenix for a few years now.  
> [www.NutritionalRebalancing.com](http://www.NutritionalRebalancing.com) U: focus P: focus  
> you’ll see my contact info inside.  
> thanks,

I saw your site and have a few quick questions:

1). What, exactly, is a “toxin”? The word is constantly thrown about by alt-health advocates but is never defined. Anything can be toxic if we have too much of it, even water and oxygen.

2). What is a “nutritional cleanse” and how is it better than simply eating more greens and cutting out junk food and alcohol?

3). The human body already comes fully equipped with three natural detoxifiers, one liver and two kidneys. How does Isagenix improve their function?

4). What, exactly, is the Isagenix 9 day program? Please be specific.

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/40 "2014-01-28T09:14:02Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What do you mean by “general detoxing”? What toxic substances are you trying to expel from your body?

Old Chinese truck batteries.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-thinking-of-trying-isagenix/679820/41 "2014-01-28T15:19:32Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Thank you all.

Don’t you owe **runner pat** an apology?

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