# I was wrong and you were right. \[Trump-related\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 2, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824 "2017-02-02T15:54:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/201 "2017-03-02T01:07:33Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> Well, there was also the chance to see if **clothy** ’s involuntary sabbatical had any effect on him. Turns out, he’s still a follower of the “Proven wrong? Just double or triple down. That’ll work!” school of thought.

Doesn’t know any better and refuses to learn.

> [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1685):
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> I was just reading an article about how some Trump voters having recriminations dislike being called stupid, and when they’re called stupid, they just double down. I have no sympathy. Don’t want to be called stupid, don’t say/do/post stupid shit. And stupid shit is almost all that I’m seeing/reading/hearing from Trump supporters. Stupid shit that makes the stupid shit the left puts out seem like a doctoral thesis in astrophysics.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/202 "2017-03-02T02:11:55Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It’s the world that I live in, where people like me have to endure the stupid decisions made by liberals in government, which are a direct result of the stupid decisions made by liberals who elected them there. It is most assuredly NOT the liberal utopian dream world populated by unicorns that fart rainbows.

The McDojo still struggling, huh? Maybe you should start rattling the bucket again.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/203 "2017-03-02T14:14:02Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> [Wrong.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/29/trumps-facile-claim-that-his-refugee-policy-is-similar-to-obama-in-2011)
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> Luckily for you, Pinocchios are a renewable resource, so you get three of your very own just like Donald did! We don’t do user avatars, but I’m sure you could get your name changed to **Clotha “TriPinocchio” Hump** if you ask nicely.

Not wrong. Go back and read my posts again, and this time, try reading for comprehension. Trump’s country list is exactly the same as the country list in Obama’s Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.

Here’s [your new avatar.](http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/CheapSkatePete/HeadupAss.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/204 "2017-03-02T14:17:30Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Not wrong. Go back and read my posts again, and this time, try reading for comprehension. Trump’s country list is exactly the same as the country list in Obama’s Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.

You’re legitimately stupid.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/205 "2017-03-02T14:27:35Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Not wrong. Go back and read my posts again, and this time, try reading for comprehension. Trump’s country list is exactly the same as the country list in Obama’s Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.
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> Here’s [your new avatar.](http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/CheapSkatePete/HeadupAss.jpg)

You said the policy was the same (you said “Obama did exactly the same thing”), not the list. In addition to being an unrepentant user of ethnic slurs, I guess you also want to be known as a liar?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/206 "2017-03-02T14:46:39Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You said the policy was the same (you said “Obama did exactly the same thing”), not the list. In addition to being an unrepentant user of ethnic slurs, I guess you also want to be known as a liar?

Is it still lying if you’re too stupid to tell the difference?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/207 "2017-03-02T15:12:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Clothahump]  
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Back for more abuse, dumbass?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/208 "2017-03-02T22:42:34Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> You’re legitimately stupid.

Seriously? Are you seriously going to deny that the same countries were involved?

And you have the gall to call me stupid. Fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/209 "2017-03-02T22:46:19Z")

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Oh you are stupid Yosemite Sam, everyone can see that. It is what makes you so funny.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/210 "2017-03-02T22:53:51Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Seriously? Are you seriously going to deny that the same countries were involved?

Offensive foul! Moving the goalposts. Poster first stated, “Obama did exactly the same thing”, then claimed the policies were similar, now merely that the named countries are the same. Five yards, loss of a down.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/211 "2017-03-02T23:13:36Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Seriously? Are you seriously going to deny that the same countries were involved?
> 
> And you have the gall to call me stupid. Fuck off.

That’s not what you said in the beginning, liar. You said “Obama did exactly the same thing”. Just a liar and an ethnic-slur user. Sad!

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/212 "2017-03-03T02:04:59Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> That’s not what you said in the beginning, liar. You said “Obama did exactly the same thing”. Just a liar and an ethnic-slur user. Sad!

Although it is mildly amusing to watch the **clothy** s of the world embrace the “Trump’s immigration policy is just like Obama’s, therefore his critics are liberal hypocrites!” talking point without ever noticing its mild conflict with the campaign’s “Obama’s immigration policy is a sieve! He’s letting in terrorists\*!” rhetoric.

\*Who proceded to attack Bowling Green and Atlanta.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/213 "2017-03-03T19:22:01Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Seriously? Are you seriously going to deny that the same countries were involved?
> 
> And you have the gall to call me stupid. Fuck off.

Let me ask you a question: Suppose we had two people. Both of them went to the same three banks. One of them made a deposit into their accounts at those three banks, and the other one robbed those three banks. If someone made the argument that what they did was “exactly the same thing” because “it was the same three banks”, you’d think that they were clinically retarded, wouldn’t you?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/214 "2017-03-06T16:11:49Z")

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[Iraq is off the list.](http://abc7.com/travel/trumps-new-travel-ban-to-apply-to-those-seeking-new-visas/1786762/)

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/215 "2017-03-06T19:58:44Z")

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They’re now on secret probation.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/216 "2017-03-06T20:15:31Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Iraq is off the list.](http://abc7.com/travel/trumps-new-travel-ban-to-apply-to-those-seeking-new-visas/1786762/)

But strangely enough, Bad Iraq nationals are still being [used as a justification](http://theweek.com/speedreads/684203/trump-removes-iraq-from-travel-ban-cites-iraqis-justification-order-anyway)for the ban. On non-Iraqis.

So let’s ban people from Syria, Yemen, Iran, Libya. Somalia and Sudan. Because some bad people came in from Iraq.

Makes no sense? Welcome to Trump-land.

I can’t wait for him to declare war on Canada because Australia banned beef imports.

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