# I was wrong and you were right. \[Trump-related\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 2, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824 "2017-02-02T15:54:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/41 "2017-02-02T19:02:33Z")
Gotta love leftists who didn’t even bother to vote. I sincerely thank all of them for making my dreams come true. Many of those idiot protesters and violent losers who have been protesting and crying post-election are many of the same idiots that didn’t even bother to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/42 "2017-02-02T19:18:12Z")
Good on ya, **Idle Thoughts**. Pay no attention to the naysayers. It’s to their advantage (they think) to discourage voting, but the path of the nation begins with local elections, which are most definitely determined by voter turnout. I’ve voted in elections where the margin of victory was literally a handful of votes. It fucking MATTERS. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/43 "2017-02-02T19:18:14Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > In the last few days…Trump… > …Did the Muslim Ban thing. > …[Has hung up on the Australian Prime Minister.](http://nypost.com/2017/02/01/trump-blasted-australian-prime-minister-during-worst-call-by-far/) > …[Has gotten the Prime Minister of Canada to accept all refugees.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-says-canada-welcomes-refugees/) > …[Has threatened Mexico with invasion](http://time.com/4657474/donald-trump-enrique-pena-nieto-mexico-bad-hombres/) > …and I don’t even want to think about what I read happened in Yemen. > [I’m sorry for this topic](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=809946). I was wrong. I was wrong not to vote. I was wrong in thinking it doesn’t matter or that it’s pointless. I very humbly apologize. > I will register to vote and start voting and I will definitely be voting four years from now… that is, if we’re still all alive in four years. Or if we still have the right to vote. I wish I had done it before, in this election. I’m sorry I didn’t. > I was definitely in the wrong and wanted you all to know I admit it and feel bad and sorry over it. > > That’s all. Changing her mind is a woman’s prerogative. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/44 "2017-02-02T19:18:18Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Gotta love leftists who didn’t even bother to vote. I sincerely thank all of them for making my dreams come true. > > Many of those idiot protesters and violent losers who have been protesting and crying post-election are many of the same idiots that didn’t even bother to vote. Typical southern voter. Living in your FEMA trailer, mad at the government for not giving you a double wide. I’d vote for Trump too. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/45 "2017-02-02T19:26:51Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Typical southern voter. Living in your FEMA trailer, mad at the government for not giving you a double wide. I’d vote for Trump too. … getting their government hands all over his Medicare and Disability payments. The government should stay out of these! ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/46 "2017-02-02T19:31:41Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Looks like someone took an intro philosophy class as an undergrad; so precocious. > > Anyway, yeah we have an unhinged madman in the whitehouse and we need to take steps to mitigate the problem. It takes PHIL101 to recognize an indoctrinated population? Go warble your hosannas at Lincoln’s feet. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/47 "2017-02-02T19:33:37Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > It takes PHIL101 to recognize an indoctrinated population? Go warble your hosannas at Lincoln’s feet. So you’re suggesting that, if the population were not “indoctrinated”, then public will could influence government and accomplish positive things? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/48 "2017-02-02T19:43:05Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I don’t seek to impose an ideology, I seek to withdraw from under the boot of yours. It is then to say that because you do not get your own preference you childishly react and reject. This is not different from wanting to impose, only you are too marginal in your ideology. > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > It takes PHIL101 to recognize an indoctrinated population? Go warble your hosannas at Lincoln’s feet. Or a population that has the different preferences in the majority than you. In a society, we have to live with many views different from our own. to do so with the real liberty in the real life is to engage in the compromise. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/49 "2017-02-02T19:47:25Z")
Please don’t let the pretentious douche derail what is a pretty interesting thread. **Idle** , you were pretty adamant in the other thread, is this the first election that you really felt disappointed in the results? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/50 "2017-02-02T19:49:07Z")
You are right. It is for Idle then a lesson ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/51 "2017-02-02T19:57:41Z")
Props to the OP, as others have said. Besides voting, consider “get[ting] off the internet,” in the immortal words of Kathleen Hanna, and doing something physical and real-world social. Go to a protest with a homemade sign, go to a meeting (the Indivisible movement has some good resources for finding one), or just talk some politics with people who seem like they know what they’re talking about, even if you disagree on some stuff. It’s psychologically helpful. I sense a lot of negative baggage in your aura, IdleThoughts - maybe some of these steps will make you feel better. (And you don’t have to wait for the next election!) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/52 "2017-02-02T19:58:41Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > …[Has gotten the Prime Minister of Canada to accept all refugees.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-says-canada-welcomes-refugees/) All what refugees? What Trudeau said was Canada is really nice to refugees. In fact, Canada did not increase its planned refugee intake by a single person as a result of Trump’s executive order. Read that link carefully. Nowhere does Trudeau suggest he’s planning any change in Canada’s plans. That’s because he wasn’t. Much easier to talk a good game. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/53 "2017-02-02T20:22:41Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > It is then to say that because you do not get your own preference you childishly react and reject. It is a childish reaction to make an observation about the plain facts of an individual’s incapacity to affect political change? > [@](#): > > This is not different from wanting to impose, only you are too marginal in your ideology. Perhaps a vocabulary lesson is in order. > [@](#): > > Or a population that has the different preferences in the majority than you. > > In a society, we have to live with many views different from our own. Ok maybe nobody is ever indoctrinated and some groups simply have preferences to carry around symbols, stand up to worship them on cue and recite inane pledges. They also have preferences to celebrate murder when undertaken by carriers of the favored symbols, and strong hatred of innocent people who wave other symbols. Some other groups that have been described as indoctrinated just had a strong preference for Chairman Mao perhaps. Yes I realize they have different preferences. The claim they are indeed indoctrinated is hard for you to argue against, considering you have no clue about American sensibilities, something you have demonstrated many times over. > [@](#): > > to do so with the real liberty in the real life is to engage in the compromise. Do you compromise with rapists? How about Nazis? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/54 "2017-02-02T20:27:08Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Please don’t let the pretentious douche derail what is a pretty interesting thread. **Idle** , you were pretty adamant in the other thread, is this the first election that you really felt disappointed in the results? Oh wow, another one on the government payroll. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/55 "2017-02-02T20:29:27Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Oh wow, another one on the government payroll. Thank you for your input Comrade. Give our regards to Putin when you send your next report in. (This makes about as much sense as your comment. Hope you enjoy it.) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/56 "2017-02-02T20:32:35Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Do you compromise with rapists? How about Nazis? Do you ever get confused as to which are hiding under your bed and which are hiding in your closet? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/57 "2017-02-02T20:47:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > It takes PHIL101 to recognize an indoctrinated population? I’m glad we have one person here who sees through the illusions that the rest of us have got caught up in. Lead on, Holden. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/58 "2017-02-02T21:09:55Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I don’t seek to impose an ideology, I seek to withdraw from under the boot of yours. That’s the fairy tale that anarchists and libertarians like to tell themselves, that if you remove the boot currently on your neck, everyone will suddenly start going barefoot. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/59 "2017-02-02T21:37:58Z")
**Idle** : Nice to know you’ve grown up at last. You no longer have to sit at the little card table set up for the kiddies. But you have to learn to cut your own meat from now on. Thanks, Donald. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-was-wrong-and-you-were-right-trump-related/778824/60 "2017-02-02T22:58:47Z")
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