# I wasn't being paranoid about my possibly rapist neighbor after all!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [August 24, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111 "2008-08-24T17:41:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/1 "2008-08-24T17:41:25Z")
Many moons ago I started [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=384722&highlight=neighbor) about a now-former neighbor of mine who divided women into three categories, one of which was “rapable.”
This morning I came across [this article in the Memphis Commercial Appeal](http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/aug/20/3-men-accused-gang-rape/) stating that he’s one of three people accused of putting his philosophy into action quite vigorously.
---
### Author:  [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/2 "2008-08-24T17:46:40Z")
Good Lord.
What is going through their minds? How can they do that?
---
### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/3 "2008-08-24T17:50:33Z")
[QUOTE=fessie]
Good Lord.
What is going through their minds? How can they do that?
[/QUOTE]
There’s this concept of “evil” i’d like to introduce you to.
---
### Author:  [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/4 "2008-08-24T17:54:32Z")
The most bizarre thing of all is that the third guy went back and took her to the hospital. Like it’s okay to get your butt off the porch swing for a few minutes and rape a girl, but he draws the line at beating her with a power drill. 😕
At any rate, you should make a smashing character witness. I would tell the police about what he said to you and the other neighborhood guys.
---
### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/5 "2008-08-24T18:00:53Z")
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
The most bizarre thing of all is that the third guy went back and took her to the hospital. Like it’s okay to get your butt off the porch swing for a few minutes and rape a girl, but he draws the line at beating her with a power drill. 😕
At any rate, you should make a smashing character witness. I would tell the police about what he said to you and the other neighborhood guys.
[/QUOTE]
I can’t imagine it would come up. I don’t live thereabouts anymore and haven’t seen him since before I got married. (For obvious reasons I didn’t want Kim living anywhere near him.) If I understand aright, his character can only be an issue if he makes it an issue–that is, the prosecutor can’t call me and his other neighbors, current and former, to say that he was a creep unless he says, “Oh, I’d never do something like that, I’m an angel, and everybody who knows me would tell you that.”
---
### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/6 "2008-08-24T18:04:30Z")
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
The most bizarre thing of all is that the third guy went back and took her to the hospital. Like it’s okay to get your butt off the porch swing for a few minutes and rape a girl, but he draws the line at beating her with a power drill. 😕
[/quote]
I don’t find that hard to fathom. There are leaders and there are followers. There are guys who’ll rape and assault given any opportunity, regardless of the probability of getting caught; there’s guys who will do it only if they estimate the odds of getting away with it to favor them; and there’s guys who’ll only do it if prodded/urged/forced by other men in a pack and who suffer pangs of conscience afterwards; and there’s guys who won’t do it no matter what.
---
### Author:  [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/7 "2008-08-24T18:12:57Z")
If ever there was a time you wished you’d been wrong about somebody… ugh. ☹
---
### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/8 "2008-08-24T18:34:57Z")
Just curious - which of those three insults to humanity is your former neighbor?
---
### Author:  [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/9 "2008-08-24T18:37:43Z")
[QUOTE=Broomstick]
Just curious - which of those three insults to humanity is your former neighbor?
[/QUOTE]
Wallace.
---
### Author:  [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/10 "2008-08-24T19:13:13Z")
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
The most bizarre thing of all is that the third guy went back and took her to the hospital. Like it’s okay to get your butt off the porch swing for a few minutes and rape a girl, but he draws the line at beating her with a power drill. 😕
[/QUOTE]
I watched the strangest interview on TV the other day. The police were interviewing a man who had been killing young women. The man explained that after beating one woman with a tire iron, his mind “began to return to normal” and realized that “that must hurt” and went back to call an ambulance for her.
Some people are just _really_ mixed up.
---
### Author:  [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/11 "2008-08-24T21:05:50Z")
[QUOTE=NinetyWt]
I watched the strangest interview on TV the other day. The police were interviewing a man who had been killing young women. The man explained that after beating one woman with a tire iron, his mind “began to return to normal” and realized that “that must hurt” and went back to call an ambulance for her.
Some people are just _really_ mixed up.
[/QUOTE]
I saw that too. It’s scary how fucked up some people are.
---
### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/12 "2008-08-24T21:13:05Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer]
I can’t imagine it would come up. I don’t live thereabouts anymore and haven’t seen him since before I got married. (For obvious reasons I didn’t want Kim living anywhere near him.) If I understand aright, his character can only be an issue if he makes it an issue–that is, the prosecutor can’t call me and his other neighbors, current and former, to say that he was a creep unless he says, “Oh, I’d never do something like that, I’m an angel, and everybody who knows me would tell you that.”
[/QUOTE]
Assuming he did say something like that, the prosecution will only know they have an offense against it if you make them aware of the option.
---
### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/13 "2008-08-24T23:16:42Z")
[QUOTE=NinetyWt]
I watched the strangest interview on TV the other day. The police were interviewing a man who had been killing young women. The man explained that after beating one woman with a tire iron, his mind “began to return to normal” and realized that “that must hurt” and went back to call an ambulance for her.
Some people are just _really_ mixed up.
[/QUOTE]
No, some people are not taught that women are real, human people like themselves. That’s a lot of what (I think) this comes down to - men who view a woman as something that exists to please men, rather than people in her own right.
---
### Author:  [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/14 "2008-08-24T23:42:07Z")
[QUOTE=Broomstick]
No, some people are not taught that women are real, human people like themselves. That’s a lot of what (I think) this comes down to - men who view a woman as something that exists to please men, rather than people in her own right.
[/QUOTE]
Skald’s ex-neighbor does seem somewhat like that, from the previous thread (linked to in the OP here). I met some guys like that when I was young. They seemed to view sexual relationships as some kind of game - the women were supposed to keep up all these barriers to prevent men from ‘getting any’, and the men were supposed to figure out how to get past all the barriers and accomplish it.
Another step futher are people who think that all other people exist just for their use. That kind of person automatically takes advantage of others when their capacity to fight back has been hampered somehow. Drunk chick passed out? Have sex with her! Dude having a seizure? Steal his wallet! Etc.
This story also reminded me (for some reason) of the fellow who wrote into an advice column one time about his ex-girlfriend refusing to have sex with him. He forced her to anyway and then his argument was that since she had agreed to have sex with him before, that she couldn’t say rape. That’s a mixture of extremely simplistic thinking along with selfishness, I reckon.
---
### Author:  [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wasnt-being-paranoid-about-my-possibly-rapist-neighbor-after-all/461111/15 "2008-08-25T05:31:22Z")
[QUOTE=NinetyWt]
I watched the strangest interview on TV the other day. The police were interviewing a man who had been killing young women. The man explained that after beating one woman with a tire iron, his mind “began to return to normal” and realized that “that must hurt” and went back to call an ambulance for her.
Some people are just _really_ mixed up.
[/QUOTE]
Alternatively (and we’re talking degrees of fucked-upedness here, not good vs evil), there was a case here a couple of years back where a guy beat his young step-daughter unconscious for leaving her school project in the car when he took her to school. Thinking he’d killed her, he drove off to dump her body. She started whimpering when he took her out of the car - so he beat her again. His quote was;
“She was in a lot of pain, I put her out of her misery.”
Doing her a favour really, why did no-one see what a prince he was? :rolleyes:
And just as a side note, his sister is also serving a life sentence - for ‘accidently’ stabbing (again) her partner in the femoral artery.
It is hurting my brain to think that Skald’s ex-neighbour was the ‘good’ one.