# I watched A New Hope today

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-watched-a-new-hope-today/539269 "2010-05-13T03:52:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-watched-a-new-hope-today/539269/21 "2010-05-21T06:15:37Z")

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Another “no one believes in the Force” point-

Among the outlying areas, faith in the Force might exist but not be outwardly expressed, while it may be actively thriving among the Rebels. Meanwhile, in the Empire, the Emperor & Vader are Dark Side Devotees but it’s hardly in their interest to encourage an active Dark Side faith throughout the Empire as that could make everyone potential Sith rivals. Tarkin probably knows enough to be wary of it, happy to leave that kind of mojo to Palaptine & Vader

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-watched-a-new-hope-today/539269/22 "2010-05-21T13:57:46Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> _The Empire Strikes Back_ similarly plays on western and war movie tropes but the Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon “gee whiz!” element is missing. _Return of the Jedi_ is also lacking that piece of the puzzle.

I’d argue that the “Millennium Falcon in the asteroid field” sequences more than fulfill said “gee whiz” element - witty banter, flashing lasers, giant space worms and all.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-watched-a-new-hope-today/539269/23 "2010-05-21T21:43:53Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> I’d argue that the “Millennium Falcon in the asteroid field” sequences more than fulfill said “gee whiz” element - witty banter, flashing lasers, giant space worms and all.

That’s a fair call. Also, Cloud City is a very clear reference to the Hawkmen’s Sky City in _Flash Gordon_, and the notion of ice and swamp planets similarly fits the space adventure theme.

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**Author:** ![ScatteredFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@ScatteredFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScatteredFrog)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-watched-a-new-hope-today/539269/24 "2010-05-21T22:02:19Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> ANH really has a different feel to it than the other ones. You know what I mean? I don’t know if I can explain what I mean, or if it is so obvious that I look dumb for even mentioning it.

My wife and I have seen only the three “classic” ones; we haven’t seen the prequels. But she explains that different feel this way:

_A New Hope_ was the first _Star Wars_ movie, and it had a basic plot and actors who were relatively not all that well-known. And it was a classic cowboy story: good guys wore white (Luke and Leia), bad guys wore black (Vader)…also note the other color scheme: the good side’s light saber is blue, the dark side’s is red. You have the hero (Luke), the damsel in distress (Leia), the bad guy (Vader), the rogue (Solo), the comic relief (the droids) and whatever else have you.

However, as my wife puts it, _The Empire Strikes Back_ and _Return Of The Jedi_ just don’t have the honest, good feel of _A New Hope_ because after _A New Hope_ the actors became rich coke addicts…

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-watched-a-new-hope-today/539269/25 "2010-05-21T23:38:05Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> Ah, I thought I was the only one who did that! Were we separated at birth?
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> My cardbacks are somewhere in the house, but I’m not sure where.

I thought I was the only one, my brother from another mother!

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