# I Weep for the Future.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 28, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851 "2005-05-28T03:12:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/121 "2005-06-02T15:54:08Z")

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Yes, but as we continue to lose ground in the fight against ignorance (and I do consider bad spelling, grammar, and word usage to be part of ignorance), the people reading the résumés of the poor spellers will be poor spellers themselves, and they won’t know the difference. ::heavy sigh::

Has anybody mentioned liberry yet?

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**Author:** ![Stillwell\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@Stillwell\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stillwell_Angel)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/122 "2005-06-02T22:02:27Z")

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I defended my right to be a not so perfect speller in a recent post. I do however have my limits of tolerance. This thread reminded me of a note my ex-mother-in-law wrote to my son’s teacher.

I present it here for all to see, _exactly_ as she wrote it: (and note when you read the salutation that this is _to_ the teacher \*about \*my son Tyler)

**Tyler,**  
**S** aid the new boy in his class is picking on him at school on the playground and on the bus. He would like for you to have **atalk** with the new boy and Tyler at **is** same time **A** nd **fine** out why the new boy **dose** not **L** ike Tyler. Could he please stop **fitting** and just be friends.  
Thank you. Tyler’s Grandmother  
I kid you not. This is a 56 year old woman who is attending nursing school. I’m sure there are way more errors than what I highlighted. I did NOT give this letter to his teacher because first of all the whole situation was bogus. My son was the one being a bully. Secondly, I would be embarrassed to admit that I was ever married into a family that produced someone who spells that horribly.

Again, I admit my spelling is never perfect, not to mention grammar and punctuation. But that…is just…atrocious.

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**Author:** ![legalsnugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@legalsnugs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legalsnugs)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/123 "2005-06-03T00:41:20Z")

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I lurk a great deal on these boards. I’m a lurker by nature. I like to lurk. I love to surreptitiously monitor the pulse of the world through the regular posters’ wonderful posts. I can go YEARS without posting (it’s not like sex, after all), but here I find myself with my third post in three days in this one thread!

And this time, it was not a client’s idiot misinterpretations of the English language, but a lawyer’s!! He wrote a memo about a dance club manager putting corn meal on the dance floor (don’t ask). He said the potential defendants “have to of known or should of known of the dangerous condition.” And he uses the term “corn mill” not once, but twice in that message.

[Kelly Bundy] The mind wobbles. [/Kelly Bundy]

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/124 "2005-06-03T00:51:22Z")

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> [@Antigen](#):
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> See, ever since **Finding Nemo** , I tend to pronounce this “ess-ka-pay” just for the heck of it. Not when I need to sound sane, mind you.

Yeah, ‘fra-gee-lay…must be Italian…’ (‘Christmas Story’) for ‘fragile’ is a biggie around our house. I think we even have a moving box flagged as ‘Fragile: Italian Breakables’ in the basement!

I have a cow-irker who uses pretty much every word over 2 syllables wrong, both verbally and in writing: ‘You don’t want to negligence that account, or they’ll complain that we’re not helping them.’ ‘I found that form…it was in the mongst of my files.’ And yes, she pronounces the final ‘s’ in ‘Illinois.’

I had a boss a few years ago who was convinced that ‘volume’ was spelled ‘volumn,’ and made us spell it that way on all of the sales quotes we put out. He wouldn’t sign them unless it was spelled like that. I hated having my name on those - I know our buyers were laughing up their sleeves at us.

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**Author:** ![flamingbananas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f4b2a3/32.png) [@flamingbananas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flamingbananas)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/125 "2005-06-03T03:43:08Z")

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> [@legalsnugs](#):
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> I lurk a great deal on these boards. I’m a lurker by nature. I like to lurk. I love to surreptitiously monitor the pulse of the world through the regular posters’ wonderful posts. I can go YEARS without posting (it’s not like sex, after all), but here I find myself with my third post in three days in this one thread!

Yay! I’m glad I’ve gotten you to post more with my thread!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/126 "2005-06-03T15:25:10Z")

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> [@legalsnugs](#):
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> \<snip\> I can go YEARS without posting (it’s not like sex, after all),\<snip\>

It’s not? Maybe you’re just doing it wrong. 😃

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/127 "2005-06-03T17:41:43Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> Yeah, ‘fra-gee-lay…must be Italian…’ (‘Christmas Story’) for ‘fragile’ is a biggie around our house. I think we even have a moving box flagged as ‘Fragile: Italian Breakables’ in the basement!

Along with “fra-gee-lay” and “ess-cah-pay” there’s “yoots.” From _My Cousin Vinny._ The two ‘yoots.’ 😛

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**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/128 "2005-06-03T18:05:38Z")

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> [@Fromage A Trois](#):
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> And another thing - spelling and grammar are important. \<snip\> It’s not a little bit of unnecessary icing on the cake,  
> YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

Boy, you’ve got some ordacity trying to correctualize my grammaticals. 😃

Someone actually used “_ordacity_” while having an argument with a friend of mine.  
Something about how the girl though my friend had a lot of _ordacity_ to think that she should have to pay her bills on time (roommates :rolleyes: ) like my friend.

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**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/129 "2005-06-03T18:07:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Something about how the girl though my friend

Thought, even.  
:smack:  
THINK, **harmless**. 😛

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**Author:** ![MrAlpen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MrAlpen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAlpen)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/130 "2005-06-03T18:44:56Z")

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[QUOTE=flamingbananas]  
This week during sewing class I witnessed something so absolutely amazingly stupid I need to make a thread about it. …QUOTE]

It’s a joke, right? Starting a thread on happenings in a sewing class?

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**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/131 "2005-06-03T19:30:52Z")

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> [@MrAlpen](#):
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> > [@flamingbananas](#):
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> > This week during sewing class I witnessed something so absolutely amazingly stupid I need to make a thread about it. …
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> It’s a joke, right? Starting a thread on happenings in a sewing class?

Not getting it if it is.  
What’s wrong with starting a thread about something said in her sewing class? 😕

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**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/132 "2005-06-03T19:41:35Z")

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psssst…

Thread. Sewing.

I think he was needling **flamingbananas**.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/133 "2005-06-03T19:48:29Z")

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You’re a stitch, **fishbicycle**!

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**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/134 "2005-06-03T19:50:44Z")

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:smack:  
And a good one at that.  
[My mind is sort of set for tree puns right now.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6225933#post6225933)  
'Scuse me, **MrAlpen**. 🙂  
I’ll be leafing now.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/135 "2005-06-17T23:18:01Z")

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The epidemic continues with the morphing of **heart-rending** into **heart-rendering**. I just saw this the other day.

Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/136 "2005-06-17T23:30:02Z")

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**Stillwell** --you should see some of the charting that I see.

When I chart, I always imagine it blown up and on display for a courtroom to see. Charting has its own stylizations, but spelling and basic sentence structure is the same–you know, noun-verb stuff?

Oy.  
Often-times here I am not the best grammarian–I tend to post the way I talk. But if I am turning in written document of some kind or sending a letter…it does indeed matter.

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**Author:** ![flamingbananas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f4b2a3/32.png) [@flamingbananas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flamingbananas)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/137 "2005-06-17T23:58:04Z")

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Ha, check out this entry from a LiveJournal that belongs to a girl at my school:

> [@](#):
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> hey guys! okie this is a message for well ne1 who reads this! okie i want sum1 burn me sum cds? if u could do that for me? like the used, taking back sunday, etc, etc, etc. yeah, ill give u money or the blank cds, w/e! just lemme no!!! thx!

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/138 "2005-06-18T00:11:14Z")

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I agree with most (maybe all!) of the ones I’ve seen so far, but here are a couple more:

“all the sudden” - I hear this often enough that if I didn’t know better, I might have been convinced that it’s correct.

“pet” as the past tense of what you do to your cat or dog. (“I pet him one last time before I left for the day,” or “My cat likes being pet.”) Yes, I’m sure your cat loves being your pet–but does he like being _petted_?

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/139 "2005-06-18T00:14:22Z")

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I just heard on the radio the Latin phrase \*‘caveat emptor’ \* (let the buyer beware) pronounced _‘caveat emperor’_.

It was a bookmaker trying to pronounce the name of a racehorse, so I guess they don’t have to be classical scholars. 😛

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**Author:** ![c\_carol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@c\_carol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_carol)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-weep-for-the-future/305851/140 "2005-06-18T00:16:46Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus(:3=](#):
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> And there was some perverse twist of “analyze” that always grated on my ears. Analyzation?

My boss uses that word _all the time_. :mad: He also says “realistically” when he means “really”. It drives me absolutely crazy.

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