I usually wear an “S” in shirts because I’m not…er…tiny. I’m like a 34C. But the biggest problem I have is that if the ass fits, the waist is usually too small. Then I have to get everything altered and I’m just sick to death of that. I like the “sexy” cut, because they’re not so low as to make me look like a pathetic middle-aged loser, but they’re low enough to be cute. And they’re not too tight, waist-wise.
Man, I can’t even remember what size I wear in womens’ clothes. I just go and try stuff on till it fits. I think I own pants and shorts in sizes everywhere from 14 to 3. The only size that’s even close to regular is my bra size, which is pretty small.
Mens’ clothes, on the other hand … I take 30x32 pants, smallish shirts, and a size 7 shoe. Oh, and if I sneak into the boys’ department as I often do, a size 16/XXL pants (I really do have a pair of these) and a large shirt.
Seriously, the number on the label means exactly jack and shit. You don’t like the number, cut out the tag after you buy it, no-one will know.
Ok, between Jinwicked and Kalhoun, I think we (meaning me and my multiple personalities, but if other metobolically challenged dopers want to join in feel free. ) should just sit on them and force feed them ho-ho’s until they really have something to complain about.
Size 0, indeed. :::::::Hrumphf!::::::::::
**Begin Hijacking Sequence Now **
What I want to bitch about is, and it is not limited too, but what in hell is up (or down) with Women’s Bra’s and dare I even mention this, lest I drive the masculine dopers reading this into a titilatation of epic proportions? What is goin on with* Nipple position in bras?*
Hijacking the hijack What is the correct pluralization of bra? Bras or bra’s? Or should I just put hooter holder?
Even before kids my headlights were, apparently, unnatural and wearing 97% of the bra’s out there meant I had to readjust them to fit in the extra baggie-ish material in said titholder. And, FTR, before kids, I was a-mighty proud of the fact that my girls looked straight ahead. Now, well, they are sorta Marty Feldman-ish, but I won’t bore you with details.
Since kids, holymotherofjesusonapogostick, it is new world alert: * nearfucking* impossible to find a decent bra (non bullet proof - cone shaped Madonna-Jane Russell Hooterfest get-a-load-of-this-boyz bra) just a nice cotton-underwire that holds the equipment without showing:
a) nippleage no matter what the weather
b)no headlight adjustsments needed whatsoever
c) Only two hook enclosure.
d) Reasonably priced so us who are nipple-challenged can by 3 or 4 of these Holy Grail of Bosom Containment Devices ™ at one time because the stock on said BCD will be made instantly discontinued the moment of purchase and thus making said boob owner to take an entire day off of work in the desperate attempt to find something like it again after the washer eats it into a crumpled wad. Leaving us sobbing in the dressing room under that gawdawful lighting and cruel, cruel mirror.
And I am not even stacked or built or have a rack, I am a 34 C, thankfully. I cannot imagine what large women go through in this Quest.
I thank you for reading this steaming fetid pile and now return you to offering condolences to **Kalhoun ** and jinwicked who are obviously suffering greatly from the stress of buying size 0 pants. Please, give them all the support their skinny little asses need.
I’ll just be over here eating chocolate covered donuts.
**This commences the Hijacking Sequence. If this had been an actually relevant post, you would be directed to slap yourself silly and say, *Well, I’ll be gobsmacked. * **
Shirley Ujest, (and I really don’t like to say this, I don’t) You. Rock. You really do.
BWAAAAACK!
I think that’s the sound of my laughter @ your post, Shirley Ujest, but you’ll have to ask my cats for sure.
Yes, I did have to take a whole afternoon to find a bra that actually FIT, and you know I bought multiples. Until this moment I really thought I was the only one. I’ve got a drawer full of near-misses that I wear painfully and with regret. Fuckers are expensive.
Shirley you beat me to it! How is it possible that I fit a 36D perfectly in one brand and am swimming in another’s 38C? And try Hanes’s (or is it Fruit of the Loom? If I were wearing one, I could check, darn it) cotton bras for reasonably priced, non-cone-shaped ta-ta holders. Nippleage may still be a problem since they’re just simple cotton. Good for summer though, and virtually no lines.
As for jeans, is there a brand out there that doesn’t assume that because I have hips, I also have thighs the size of the Washington monument? I’m a woman, I have curvy hips that go into fairly normal thighs. Having hips doesn’t equal big everywhere else. You can tell I went jeans shopping last weekend…
Thank god the media lavishes praise on us 12-14 sized women so I can feel good about myself when I cannot even SHOP At Victoria’s secret because everything makes me look like a Manatee in rubberbands.
Size 2. Must be rough.
This is the reason I ab-so-lute-ly refuse to get rid of my old Victoria Secret’s bra’s from my Old Life. They don’t fit and I cannot bear to part with them because they cost so much. so they clog up a drawer like a hamburger in the arteries of life.
I was hoping to make a snow woman this winter to put one of them on her, but we never really had decent packing snow . I guess I’ll save it for my future Cross Dressing Garden Buddha ™ that I cannot afford to have hand carved and wear the old outfits of yesterShirley.
sigh.
I was just bitching about this last night. I’m losing a lot of weight lately, rapidly enough that I have to go clothes shopping every few weeks. Which I fucking hate. I would like to know who decides that the thighs in a pair of jeans each have to be as big as the waist. (Okay, fine, it’s an exaggeration, but it’s only a slight exaggeration.)
We need to write a letter:
Dear Manufacturer,
I don’t know where you live, but where I come from, every woman I’ve ever seen has thighs smaller than her waist. Much smaller than her waist. It doesn’t even matter what size she is, her fucking thighs are SMALLER than her waist.
Thank you for your time.
Don’t get me started on bras…
Shirley, I also keep my old Victoria’s Secret bras!!! In the meantime their color can only be discerned if the sun is really bright and you squint really hard. But those are the only bras that really fit me perfectly and the thoughtful people at VS discontinued that particular model.
For the record, when I wanted to try on another model, the saleswoman looked at me condescendingly and said: “We don’t sell them in THAT size. How could you even consider a bra like that???” I totally agree with jarbabyj here. Manatee it is.
But some of us do have that problem. Sizes vary depending on the manufactuer, I’m a 40" in most pants but 42" in Levis and others. I can also were between a 32" and 34" inseam, which is helpful because pants that are 42"×34" are nearly impossible to find. I’m wearing a pair of Dockers right now, they were marked as 44"×32" when I bought them; I’ve since let down the cuffs so they’re closer 34" long now. If I’m in a store and can’t find any 34s with at least a 40" waist, I’ll start looking for 32s that have a ~1" cuff which can be let down. If others are buying for me, I now tell them to get something with at least a 42" waistband because one of my sisters sent me two pairs of jeans one Christmas that were supposed to fit. Even though they were marked as having 40" waists, they were too tight. My SO has them now.
I have the hardest time buying clothes. I’m anywhere between 14/16/18/20/22. I rencenly went jeans shopping and most 20’s I tried on were too tight (even though the ones I have at home still fit fine) so I moved to 22’s. I tried on a few of those and some were too small and the pair I did buy is just way to big. The only reason I got them was because they were so comfortable. I think the thing is the ones that were too small were plus size juniors (hip and stylish brands such as Zanadi) and the ones I bought that were too big were just plain ol’ Levis bootcut jeans.
Dress shopping is the worst though. Designers assume because a woman is plus sized she must have hooters the size of watermelons and lemme tell you that isn’t true at all! Any dresses I find that fit my hips I’m swimming in on top, and if it fits on top then I can’t pull it over my hips. Lane Bryant size 14/16 dresses are about the only thing that work for me.
The only thing that is ever constant for me is my bra size. I am always a 38 B.
Don’t even get me started here. If I can find anything above a 40 in a normal store–which is unlikely, considering I can usually find 20-38 and nothing more, then I have to hope it’ll somehow wrap around my big butt and fit comfortably and be a 30" inseam that’s actually 30" and…ugh.
I swear, the first manufacturer that comes up with a uniform sizing pattern and sells decent looking stuff in my size that FITS will have my money for the rest of my days.
Didn’t I read somewhere that one of the jeans manufacturers has a type of scanner. You went into a fitting room and got naked, and after the scan the device made suggestions on what style jeans would suit best. Don’t even start on bras. One of my girls is a lot bigger than her sister.
argggggggg…dnt even get me started on the crap UK system of clothing sizes!!!
Hell, at least in the USA if u say ur a size 12 u’d sound small to us!
an 8 is like the smallest round here!
… I think you’re putting them on upside down…
Please. I wish I had your problems. Size 2. Size 12. Piffle.
Actually, I know how badly this sucks. I have no ass. I have boobage bigger than Rhode Island, and a round stomach, but no ass to speak of.
So all my pants, if they fit me in the waist, are baggy in the butt.
Sigh
Mind if I ask why not? Isn’t the important thing your comfort and how they look? You are the size you are, regardless of what the tag says. Is size 12 some magical point where “fat” starts? Would it damage your self-image to wear something that has a “12” on the label instead of a “10”? It doesn’t really matter. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. It’s just a label. Fit, style and comfort are what matter, right? It’s not like putting on a pair of pants with a “12” on the tag instead of a “10” will make you gain 10 pounds. You’ll still be your beautiful self, who cares what the ink on the tag says?
Enjoy,
Steven
I am “assily” challenged. What can I say?
Continuing hijack: But that’s what I’m looking for; a bra with shape! A bra that lifts and separates! But the only ones I can find mash my tits against my chest. Fine, I’m “well-endowed”. Why would I want a “minimizer” bra that just makes my look fat(ter)? If I wanted that, I’d just get me an Ace bandage and go the old-fashioned route. Heck of a lot cheaper.
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Ok, no cite, 'cause I have to go; someone is waiting, but I once saw a documentary about the fashion industry that showed them using a long blade to cut the stack of denim. The narrator said, IIRC, that the reason the sizes vary so much, particularly with denim, is because the dense fabric makes the blade ‘warp’, so it cuts closer to the pattern here, farther there. This was less true of thinner fabrics, but still true.
Also true is that each designer has an image in his/her head of the “Perfect Woman”, which may or may not have any basis in reality (a reason to buy female designers - it’s usually themselves). In addition, the designer has a favorite Fit Model who is a perfect size whatever (eight for regular clothes, 22 for plus) on whom they design and fit the clothes, say, a dress. The patterns are cut from that dress, and inches added or removed for each size larger and smaller. (Even if you don’t buy “Designer”, someone had to make the pattern).
My point is, the size of the garment is irrelevant. How does the item fit? If the four would have fit you, you should have bought the four. If the 12 fits you, buy the 12, and cut the tag out if it bugs you.
Sorry for the length of the post; clothes are my thing. And now I’ve got to run; my sister just called me and yelled at me; she’s been waiting half an hour!