# I wish posters would stop using the term "MAGAt"

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**Created:** [January 12, 2026, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577 "2026-01-12T00:23:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/101 "2026-01-13T22:54:53Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Kimmel gets it. He knows Trump hates to be mocked in anyway.

Definitely. He never talks about DT in a way that makes DT look like a Scary Guy. He, and others like Colbert, talk about DT as a Ridiculous, Pathetic, Contemptible Guy.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/102 "2026-01-13T22:56:23Z")

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The rest of the word is going to say “Oh to hell with the USA, they can’t be trusted”

MAGA could never be trusted. You do not beat people up and do horrible things again and again and say “ooops” sorry. (checks forum) Fuck those people. They will always do it again if they can. They need to be called out for what they are.

Period.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/103 "2026-01-13T23:12:52Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> The rest of the word is going to say “Oh to hell with the USA, they can’t be trusted”

Trump has tainted the USA’s reputation for at least generations.

Even if his toadies are voted out, thrown in prison, flee the nation in disgrace, and MAGA is eliminated, other nations have to at least wonder if and when the next Trump is going to take over. It’s like if you see a coworker snap and lash out physically, maybe they were having an exceptionally bad day and were acting uncharacteristically, people aren’t going to just forget that. Folks will be wary of that person for a long, long time.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/104 "2026-01-13T23:17:17Z")

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@enipla me and you generally agree on things.

But I disagree about the world saying a Big Fuck You to America.

They are watching and are probably as afraid of Trump’s actions as we are.

People still want to come to America and can be attested by our immigration/border issues. I don’t know stats but there have been some Americans who have bailed on this country and many more who’d like to. I think the cost and lifestyle may prevent it in many situations. Occasionally they get to another place and find strife and discord or hampering because Americans are not sure how to act overseas(in many cases). For many reason it does not work out.

The USA has big problems, to be sure. It’s still a great place to live for a great many. And can save someone from an untenable life in the country they were born into.

I totally get we are in fear here. I am. I’m worried about myself and my kids, grandkids going forward.

I don’t see how we can come out of this with the lifestyle we have enjoyed for many decades in this country.

But we always have shaken the problems and moved forward with a better path. It’s never been perfect or fair. But who promised perfection and fairness. Even the founding fathers couldn’t have divined what we have gone thru, throughout our history.

We’ve done some stuff. Very good things in this country.

I refuse to believe one old orange dude with an inflated ego and an evil bent can tear this great country down.

I’ll be glad to field your “I told you so” when the time comes. But, today I still have some hope left.

I see the tide is turning, as we speak.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/105 "2026-01-13T23:22:22Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I see the tide is turning, as we speak.

Perhaps. I’m waiting with bated breath until the mid-term results. But even if every single rascal is thrown out of their position of power…

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It’s like if you see a coworker snap and lash out physically, maybe they were having an exceptionally bad day and were acting uncharacteristically, people aren’t going to just forget that. Folks will be wary of that person for a long, long time.

One time, maybe. The second time (election) no way in hell are you going to completely trust them again and we had that in November, 2024.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/106 "2026-01-13T23:24:23Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> The second time (election) no way in hell are you going to completely trust them again.

And I guess the flaw in my metaphor is that there is no HR department for the nations of the world. The UN might be the closest thing, but it has very little real power. Especially not over the really powerful nations.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/107 "2026-01-13T23:26:18Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> During the Cold War I sometimes saw the Soviet Union called, “Third-world with nukes.” I don’t think we’ll slip down that far but as the current ~~regime~~ administration continues to piss off our allies and play into our rivals’ hands I can see us becoming simply irrelevant.

I think America has been a third world country since at least W Bush. More than anything, it’s a state of mind. My wife says that she’s thinks Americans just don’t believe they deserve better than to eat processed slop out of styrofoam buckets and live without health insurance.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/108 "2026-01-14T00:27:01Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Just yesterday I was reading and someone referred to Trump as, ‘Tantrump’.

@Pardel-Lux uses that one here, and not infrequently.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/109 "2026-01-14T00:41:06Z")

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Maybe we’ll stop right after he fully releases the Epstein Files…?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/110 "2026-01-14T10:57:22Z")

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Yes, I came up with that some time ago, but I think I used to write it rather like “the Orange tanTrump in the White House”. I don’t mind if others use the same expression. And if they come up with it by themselves in parallel, or something similar, fine by me. I hope nobody here has a problem with that. I truly believe he is tantrum prone.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/111 "2026-01-14T11:13:39Z")

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Well @Beckdawrek we can agree to disagree. I very much doubt folks want to come the the USA anymore.

My wife and I have a big Europe trip planned for next August. I hope we don’t get spit on a lot. I might buy a blue baseball cap.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/112 "2026-01-14T14:25:33Z")

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Now I remember: The _temper tanTrump in the White House_ is what I used to call him. I think I will start again with that.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/113 "2026-01-14T14:33:47Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I might buy a blue baseball cap.

Baseball caps are not really popular in Europe, few people wear them. Teenagers, if at all. I recommend claiming to be Canadians, it is called **[flag-jacking](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/americans-pretending-to-be-canadians-flag-jacking-b2853872.html)**, it seems. Some claim it does not work. I recommend further you familiarize yourself with the proper measuremnt systems: no miles or pounds or fahrenheit. And try not to shout too much. No sodas or coffee to go. And avoid real Canadians, **[they might object](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-insulting-and-disrespectful-as-stolen-valour-canadians-have-their-say-on-americans-pretending-to-be-them-while-travelling-abroad-131627520.html)**.  
Good luck! You are not coming to Berlin by any chance?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/114 "2026-01-14T14:48:26Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Baseball caps are not really popular in Europe, few people wear them. Teenagers, if at all. I recommend claiming to be Canadians, it is called **[flag-jacking](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/americans-pretending-to-be-canadians-flag-jacking-b2853872.html)**, it seems

Yeah, I don’t wear baseball caps either, I wear a Tilly.airflow broad brimed hat. It’s good for rain and sun.

I would never ever pretend to be another nationality. I’m not going to advertize that I’m USAmerican though.

My wife and I are quite and reserved people. No shouting, ever.

No Berlin. Though we did a 3 week tour of southern Germany 10 years ago. This trip is Iceland, Norway, England, Scotland and Ireland.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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> [@enipla](#):
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> Iceland, Norway, England, Scotland and Ireland.

That sounds perfect for august, but the units to use will be a mess. Could be worse. Enjoy!

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/116 "2026-01-14T15:01:03Z")

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Tantrum works beautifully on two levels.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> You are not coming to Berlin by any chance?

Are you in Berlin? I plan to visit Germany in May, although not especially close to Berlin.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/118 "2026-01-14T15:13:51Z")

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Thanks. My wife put this all together, then we delayed it a year because we where in the middle of moving and retiring. I said, no way.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wish-posters-would-stop-using-the-term-magat/1026577/119 "2026-01-14T15:20:42Z")

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Yes, I am, most of the time. May sounds lovely.

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It’s a acronym that says everything about an ideology. You can be it or not.You say, “I am pro MAGA, except I’m not sure I like using Federal troops domestically as practice” there will be a gasp, followed by, “Sounds like you have a problem with what Our President is doing in Venezuela and Greenland?”, “How many guns do you have? Be glad you have them else the democrat party will take them away,”, and “hand over all your red hats”.

I don’t think the Oxford under-the-bridge dictionary allows acronyms, yet if they do this one will enter that huge tome before long. And trump will be ever so pleased.

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