# I wonder what Hellestal would say to this. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2011, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564 "2011-02-16T09:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/21 "2011-02-19T01:04:15Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > So… when do our jobless and homeless Americans get some foreign aid? Never, since they aren’t foreign. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/22 "2011-02-19T01:39:21Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Never, since they aren’t foreign. 😛 Foreign aid, this time meaning aid from foreign countries. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/23 "2011-02-19T03:00:11Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > …why focus on aid from the US to China? Maybe because we had to borrow the money _from_ them first? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/24 "2011-02-19T05:34:29Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > So… when do our jobless and homeless Americans get some foreign aid? Can you answer that? First, we need to put tariffs on all the countries with brown and yellow people, driving our economy into the toilet. Then maybe the EU will take pity on us and send us some aid. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/25 "2011-02-20T03:19:51Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > I know you have trouble grasping this, but China is still a very poor country… > -XT They’re sitting on a pile of our IOUs. How about they spend some of that money so we don’t have to send money there to feed their ridiculously poor? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/26 "2011-02-20T04:32:15Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > They’re sitting on a pile of our IOUs. How about they spend some of that money… How do you spend an IOU? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/27 "2011-02-20T04:42:15Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > 😛 > > Foreign aid, this time meaning aid from foreign countries. Why would foreign countries give aid to such a rich country as America? Especially when we’ve gone out of our way to alienate pretty much the entire planet. ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/28 "2011-02-20T08:06:49Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Why would foreign countries give aid to such a rich country as America? Especially when we’ve gone out of our way to alienate pretty much the entire planet. Doesn’t Venezuela have a program where they give poor Americans heating oil through some US subsidiary they have? Ah yes, seems [that at least in 2009 it was still in effect](http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2009/0109/p25s02-woam.html). And costing them 100 million dollars a year, too. So that washes with our China expenditures, at least. Yay for Chavez’s ego, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/29 "2011-02-20T10:08:55Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > So… when do our jobless and homeless Americans get some foreign aid? Can you answer that? You’re incontravertably too insular to acknowledge it , but according to Washington Post $854 million in foreign aid/assistance was offered by foreign countries to the US after Hurricane Katrina. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/30 "2011-02-21T23:01:32Z")
When you get backed into a corner you love to trot out this accusation of racism… > [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > First, we …a country of brown and yellow people whose birth rates outnumbered that of whites as of 2010… > [@](#): > > need to put tariffs on all the countries with brown and yellow people Spot the irony of your statement. Of course you can’t. > [@](#): > > driving our economy into the toilet. More irrational speculation, or more specifically, scare tactics. Your argument has at best the most tenuous support from history, rife with exceptions. (Such as China, whose economy has not been ruined by its tariffs.) ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/31 "2011-02-21T23:04:44Z")
Well, I certainly see the irony… -XT ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/32 "2011-02-22T04:05:34Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > When you get backed into a corner you love to trot out this accusation of racism… Hey kettle–the phone’s for you–it’s the pot. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/33 "2011-02-22T06:41:55Z")
> [@TravisFromOR](#): > > Hey kettle–the phone’s for you–it’s the pot. Ah, the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback, again. Anyhoot… why the fuck are we sending aid to China again? They already have our jobs. Isn’t that aid enough? ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/34 "2011-02-22T06:45:31Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > Ah, the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback, again. No, it’s not that. It’s that you’re a hypocritical jackass who makes accusations of racism when there is no basis for it. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/35 "2011-02-22T06:51:34Z")
> [@TravisFromOR](#): > > No, it’s not that. Yes it is. “I know you are but what am I?” is your best shot. You’re the bunch of idiots posting baseless racism accusations like this: “First, we need to put tariffs on all the countries with brown and yellow people” as if you guys think this is a war on brown and yellow people. What a bunch of feeble minded bobbleheads. ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564/36 "2011-02-22T06:54:51Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > Yes it is. “I know you are but what am I?” is your best shot. You’re the bunch of idiots posting baseless racism accusations like this: > > “First, we need to put tariffs on all the countries with brown and yellow people” > > as if you guys think this is a war on brown and yellow people. > > What a bunch of feeble minded bobbleheads. That’s not what anyone supporting offshoring supports. If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would understand that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-wonder-what-hellestal-would-say-to-this/571564.md?page=1)