You mentioned that there are a handful of trustees who aren’t actually physically confined to the prison any longer, but they are still technically prisoners.
Do they have to check in every few days?
I assume these are non-violent criminals who are at the end of their time anyway and so have no incentive to go on the lam?
I really can’t answer that. :smack:
SFC Schwartz
You talk about the racial divisions. Are there any by branch or arm of service?
They have housing, sort of like barracks, on Ft Leavenworth. They have to get up and go to work everyday. There is a van that arrives to take the inmates to work. If the inmate does not show up for work, the pass list is checked to see if the trustee has a valid pass for the day. If not, someone will be sent out to the housing unit to see if the inmate is sick or overslept. So, the inmates are accounted for everyday they have to work.
You are also correct in your assumption that they have too much to lose. If they attempt to escape, they go from trustee to max security. While on trustee status, they can go home for a week every year. Try telling your wife that you won’t be coming home this year or any in the forseeable future because you had a good plan to escape. It won’t happen often.
SFC Schwartz
Not so much by branch of service. Everyone has a certain amount of “cred.” Cred gets you slightly larger portions in the dining facility. Cred gets you control of the TV remote. Cred gets your suggestions taken seriously when there are problems. The Marines usually get more cred than anyone else when they first arrive. Rangers, Special Forces and Snipers get automatic cred when they arrive. The next thing to sort status would be the type of offense. Murder gets you cred. Sex offenses not so much. You can earn it, but you don’t start with it.
SFC Schwartz
What is a squid?
A member of the Navy.
SFC Schwartz
That seems unlikely. Gangs are trying to do things like sell drugs not start a civil war. The skills they’d need for their business you can pick up in a few days at a firing range. Military skills like calling in airstrikes, firing artillery, driving tanks, clearing minefields, all-terrain recon, launching a surface-to-air missile, and close order marching aren’t going to be used in gang fighting.
Heck, a gang leader would probably be better off sending his people to community college to take some business management courses.
My dad was at Leavenworth (civilian) when I was a kid. He said something about being able to work, but this got me thinking…
I know your site is a different building, but do you get ‘work releases’ too so that inmates can ‘be productive’ anywhere? Or are the conditions harsher?
edit: You answered this. Sorry.
Thank you, Sir.
This is a term of contempt used by the Marines?
I answered your question before I saw your edit. 
The jobs that the trustees get are outside the prison, but on FT Leavenworth. There are some on minimum custody that can work outside the prison. Everyone else has a job inside the prison.
SFC Schwartz
No, it is a term used by pretty much anyone who has lived in Virginia Beach or Norfolk, VA. 
SFC Schwartz
You mentioned most people confined to your facility are reduced in rank to E-1. Does this include officers? Do officers even retain their commission upon conviction?
Also, if they are convicted but remain in the service, how would their rank be effected after they serve their sentence? Would an E-5 confined for 3 years return to his service as an E-1 and have to start building seniority all over again?
Yes, officers lose their commission when they are sentenced. Even the former officers are reduced to E-1. Most seem to think that they are still in charge and should get some cred for having been an officer. It doesn’t happen usually.
I don’t deal with many that go back. Usually if they stay in my prison, they have been dishonorably discharged. I have had two in the last last couple months that will go back. One was reduced from an E-8 to an E-4, and he will be an E-4 when he gets out and goes back to work.
The other went from an E-5 to an E-1. He will be a PVT when he goes back to work.
SFC Schwartz
Do you know in what ways a military prison is different from a civilian prison?
Having looked at the Hare test but not having much familiarity with it, what are the most common/strongest indicators of psychopathy?
How does putting them in therapy/treatment groups teach them to be better criminals?
Aside from the inmate characteristics, which I talked about above, I don’t know of any differences. I know we are considered, by the inmates who have done time in federal prison and in the USDB, an easy stay. There is a lot less violence. There are almost no rapes. Other than that, I really don’t have anything reliable I could share.
As to the Hare. psychopaths don’t care about anyone but themselves. A psychopath will use anyone to get what he wants. A person who has no concern for anyone else, a person who lies constantly in order to get what he wants, a person who can steal from family and friends as easily as strangers. Psychopaths are likeable. They know how to talk to people. Psychopaths don’t care about who they hurt, because the people they hurt are meant to be victims, because they are weak.
The don’t do therapy, because the only thing a true psychopath wants to do is use other people to make himself better. Let’s say psychopath Bob went to an AA meeting in prison. He would hear stories about how someone told his grandmother he was taking her heirloom engagement ring to the cleaners, and pawned it instead. Most would hear the story and think, “How could someone go so low.” Bob would hear the story and think, “Well Grandma is dead, but Aunt Lucy has some jewelry that I bet I could talk her out of.”
SFC Schwartz
What would someone do to merit (at least) five years in prison but not a discharge?
The example I used sexually assaulted his step daughter. There was a lot of mitigating circumstances, and the Soldier had over 25 years service. His commander wanted him to be able to retire, so there was a pre-trial agreement for 8 years with a reduction in rank to E-4. If the inmate does what he is supposed to do, he should be out in four years, and able to retire.
SFC Schwartz
I am not being snarky, nor asking for details, but they must have been very, very mitigating.
I understand what you are saying. I am very thankful sometimes I don’t have to figure out sentencing.
SFC Schwartz