# I would like to see RSSchen/MizGrand banned from this message board

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 10, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497 "2007-04-10T16:54:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/41 "2007-04-10T18:17:27Z")

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I’m not a big fan of banning idiots, because it makes it harder to figure out who the idiots are.

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**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/42 "2007-04-10T18:17:58Z")

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Christ Almighty! They locked the other thread, so you have to start ANOTHER one? Give it a fucking rest already.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/43 "2007-04-10T18:18:21Z")

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Dumb OP, **featherlou**. This isn’t (or shouldn’t be) a popularity club. She’s done nothing to justify being banned.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/44 "2007-04-10T18:20:30Z")

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[QUOTE=mhendo]  
No, she got exactly what she asked for, and exactly what she deserved, in that thread.

But i still don’t think she should be banned.  
[/QUOTE]  
If what she posted is true she is a piece of work and is doing shitty things to her family. But the train wreck for the most part was a big stone the sinner pile on. There were a few posts that were not but most were. When someone else is an ass you don’t get a free pass to be an ass also. I don’t remember specifically you saying anything one way or the other but that thread was pretty ugly.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/45 "2007-04-10T18:21:01Z")

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I have to admit, I have no idea what threads you folks are talking about, but i get the impression that **RSSchen** has not insulted and or threatened anyone on the board. Why is there so much anger in the OP?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/46 "2007-04-10T18:21:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I agree. The next person who does this should be banned.  
[/QUOTE]

You sir, are a brat. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/47 "2007-04-10T18:23:36Z")

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[QUOTE=gazpacho]  
If what she posted is true she is a piece of work and is doing shitty things to her family. But the train wreck for the most part was a big stone the sinner pile on. There were a few posts that were not but most were. When someone else is an ass you don’t get a free pass to be an ass also. I don’t remember specifically you saying anything one way or the other but that thread was pretty ugly.  
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I’ve never cheated on my wife, and I reserve the right to stone any idiot who does, and then brags about it in public.

If you’re going to be indiscreet, for God’s sake, be discreet about it.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/48 "2007-04-10T18:32:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Uvula Donor]  
So, are the little _m_s on the candy the pony’s hoofprint, or just the mark where they hit his nutsack as they fell?  
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😃😃😃😃

:: wiping tears away ::

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/49 "2007-04-10T18:37:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Uvula Donor]  
So, are the little _m_s on the candy the pony’s hoofprint, or just the mark where they hit his nutsack as they fell?  
[/QUOTE]

I love you.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/50 "2007-04-10T18:39:08Z")

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[QUOTE=gazpacho]  
If what she posted is true she is a piece of work and is doing shitty things to her family. But the train wreck for the most part was a big stone the sinner pile on. There were a few posts that were not but most were.  
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So what?

If you post a story about your actions and ask for people’s opinions, then you have to be prepared for the possibility that the majority of those people might think you’re an asshole, and might be prepared to tell you so. If you want to characterize that as “stone the sinner,” that’s your right.  
[QUOTE=gazpacho]  
When someone else is an ass you don’t get a free pass to be an ass also. I don’t remember specifically you saying anything one way or the other but that thread was pretty ugly.  
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It’s not about me. I didn’t make my post in self-defense, or self-justification. If that thread was ugly, it was largely **RSSchen** ’s own doing.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/51 "2007-04-10T18:39:57Z")

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[QUOTE=lowbrass]  
Christ Almighty! They locked the other thread, so you have to start ANOTHER one? Give it a fucking rest already.  
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For those keeping score, that is now six threads on this one topic.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/52 "2007-04-10T18:49:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
The next person who does this should be banned.  
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Jehovah! Jehovah!

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/53 "2007-04-10T18:53:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Helen’s Eidolon]  
Oh, come on. People were hounding her on how easy it was to track her down, and she took it to heart - she changed her name from something identifiable to something more anonymous. Can’t blame her for taking the advice.  
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Nope. She did it so she could duck [responsibility](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8448639#post8448639) for her previous posts, hoping to assume a new, uncontentious identity and avoid being further criticized. Fortunately, board rules do not allow that.

And yes, I think the pit thread was entirely justified. The condemnable needs to be condemned, and it is no crime to blame what is blameworthy.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/54 "2007-04-10T18:55:34Z")

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Good fucking grief! The woman clearly has emotional/psychological problems and has had for most of her life! Yes, she exhibits the characteristics you’re all denigrating her for, but…she. can’t. help. it! It’s part of the illness! You might as well berate a cancer patient for having tumors.

One of the most difficult things to do when dealing with someone who has irrational emotional or psychological problems is to acknowledge the fact that their behavior is symptomatic of the illness, and to not hold that person’s behavior against them or condemn them for it. To do so seems to be giving them a free ride to behave wrongfully. But the thing is, like I said above, they can’t help it. Unless the underlying causes are dealt with, the behavior is unlikely to change–at least not permanently–because the behavior isn’t really the problem, it’s the _result_ of the problem.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/55 "2007-04-10T18:58:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Uvula Donor]  
So, are the little _m_s on the candy the pony’s hoofprint, or just the mark where they hit his nutsack as they fell?  
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For one thing, that would be one TINY PONY.

For another…_glittering_ candy shell. Those OTHER ones have a matte- to semi-gloss finish.

But theoretically I think it would have the be the mark from hitting the pony’s tiny nutsack, because it’s funnier.

**Anastasaeon** : Want!!!

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/56 "2007-04-10T19:00:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Starving Artist]  
Good fucking grief! The woman clearly has emotional/psychological problems and has had for most of her life! Yes, she exhibits the characteristics you’re all denigrating her for, but…she. can’t. help. it! It’s part of the illness!  
[/QUOTE]  
Perhaps some people’s overwhelming desire to give her a piece of their mind is part of their wellness.

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**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/57 "2007-04-10T19:14:43Z")

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[QUOTE=athelas]  
Nope. She did it so she could duck [responsibility](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8448639#post8448639) for her previous posts, hoping to assume a new, uncontentious identity and avoid being further criticized. Fortunately, board rules do not allow that.

And yes, I think the pit thread was entirely justified. The condemnable needs to be condemned, and it is no crime to blame what is blameworthy.  
[/QUOTE]

> [@MizGrand](#):
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> I’m currently in a trainwreck that I’d really like to have the nasty people stop pulling up my old posts because it seems they’re intent on finding me in person and I’m not comfortable with that.

As **Helen’s Eidolon** said, she was trying to make herself more anonymous. Blame the blameworthy as you will, in this case she is making a smart move far far too late.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/58 "2007-04-10T19:15:21Z")

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I don’t think she should be banned. But if her story’s true I weep for her husband and children. They’re in for a lifetime of pain because of her actions. ☹ They’ve gotten a far greater mental fucking from her than anyone here.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/59 "2007-04-10T19:21:06Z")

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Okay, I went and calmed down a bit. Let me explain my reasoning a bit, then I will endeavour to leave this alone - it truly isn’t worth any more time, effort, or head space.

In my opinion, **RSSchen/MizGrand** asked for the name change to avoid the consequences of her actions - she posted too much personal information and posted about too many bad things she’s doing/has done, and she’s afraid of being found out in real life. I wouldn’t be surprised if a secondary reason was for her to try to go forward posting on the Dope with a clean slate - leaving the bad name she’s made for herself behind. We know posters by our usernames and the posting history attached to it; it seems like a cheat to me to build up a bad reputation for yourself, and then just change your username to hide from your past.

I am disappointed in the administrators for helping her avoid the consequences of her actions, because that is the last thing she needs - people enabling her particular pathology of consequence avoidance, but I understand why **TubaDiva** did it. Covering the ass of the Chicago Reader is the reason for decisions made here, and I get that.

In any other poster, it would simply be a username change, and not have any baggage associated with it. Tuba would have to be a lot more stupid than I give her credit for if she didn’t realize that RSSchen/MizGrand’s username change wasn’t going to be met with the usual disinterest of a username change, considering the circumstances that prompted it.

It is just a message board, I realize that, too, but it is also a community. I see this decision as doing some damage to the integrity of our community and our members, but the administrators and other members obviously don’t completely agree with me, so I will consider that I am over-reacting. We have had chronic liars in our midst before; they were eventually banned. I think RSSchen/MizGrand will probably end up there herself at some point, but I guess she hasn’t done anything ban-worthy yet.

I do think we need to be careful in our dealings with her since she is so untrustworthy (whether from choice or from disorder, the results are the same) , and she and the administrators have made that more difficult with the track-covering name change, and I think that is what is making me so angry.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see-rsschen-mizgrand-banned-from-this-message-board/399497/60 "2007-04-10T19:25:54Z")

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People take this place too seriously.

That is all I have to say, that and **Whynot** , stop posting what I am thinking. Get out of my head.

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