# I would like to see...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 19, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232 "2012-03-19T15:54:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/21 "2012-03-19T19:55:36Z")

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Know how some movies open with a spectacular chase scene, with our renegade cop/rougue agent hero chasing some baddie all over town, causing car wrecks and smashing up businesses and sending people flying over sides of bridges to avoid his careening car? And then his bosses are so pleased with Our Hero that they give him the impossible task that is the main plot of the movie?

Well, IWLTS the movie shift to focus on one of the Innocent Bystanders who is injured or financially ruined by the damage done to their property and follow their lives as they try to recover from the random violence that destroyed their life. And it would be even cooler if they set out to avenge themselves upon the Hero and brought him to justice to pay for all the destruction he left in his wake.

Oh! And IW also LTS a movie where people live in average-size houses with non-designer created interiors (especially if they are young and just starting out in the Big City) where they turn out the lights and lock their doors when they leave the house!

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/22 "2012-03-19T20:26:51Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I would like Assassin’s Creed 3 to have a female protagonist. Why not? The premise could work perfectly with the Native Americans. As a matter of fact, I would like to see more females as default for games and movies and books. We’re half the population, and yet Bioware had to issue a special trailer for Female Shephard? Come on!

I’m so with you on this. I hate it when I start a new game and there’s no choice for a female protagonist.

> [@kushiel](#):
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> Because Female Assassin would be wearing a string bikini made of cow leather with tomahawks strung around her waist and feather nipple tassels. It’s the law of video gaming, the main trait of all protagonist chicks is sexiness.

Though there _is_ a trend towards this, it’s not universal - Dragon Age and Mass Effect both let you be female protagonists, and though they tend to be shapely/sexy, they’re no more so than the male protagonist models. I’m currently playing Kingdoms of Amalur, and that’s true for that one as well, and SWTOR was good in that way too.

Shooters, though, yeah, it’s always bikinis and gravity-defying boobs.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/23 "2012-03-19T21:13:14Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> What, you didn’t like **John Carter (of Mars)**?
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> 😃

I thought she was talking about Avatar.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/24 "2012-03-20T13:20:59Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> Though there _is_ a trend towards this, it’s not universal - Dragon Age and Mass Effect both let you be female protagonists, and though they tend to be shapely/sexy, they’re no more so than the male protagonist models. I’m currently playing Kingdoms of Amalur, and that’s true for that one as well, and SWTOR was good in that way too.
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> Shooters, though, yeah, it’s always bikinis and gravity-defying boobs.

It can be done. Like you said, I love Mass Effect because it allows my char to be womanly as well as badass. I don’t want her to be mannish. I don’t mind being her shapely, and attractive - but I don’t want her to be only that, or to have the focus on that.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/25 "2012-03-20T13:26:41Z")

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> [@Christopher\_Robin\_Davies](#):
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> I thought about that one too. I remember a mid-90s show starring Tiffany Thiessen from Saved By the Bell in which she was a police lieutenant even though she could not have been more than 24 or so.

I think that was [Fastlane](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320000/)(aired from 2002 to 2003, got decent ratings but was cancelled because each episode cost over 2 million dollars to produce.)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/26 "2012-03-20T16:42:25Z")

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[quote=“drastic\_quench, post:4, topic:616232”]

IWLTS:  
[li]the national anthem officially changed to “This Land is Your Land.”[/li][/QUOTE]

I’d rather it be [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M) little ditty.

Extremely NSFW.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/27 "2012-03-20T17:52:45Z")

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I would like to see movies that have scientists who actually believe in science.

> [@"Rise of the Planet of the Apes" kicks ass (boxed spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-kicks-ass-boxed-spoilers/591692/82):
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> Since it is out on Pay-Per View and DVD, I will forgo the spoilers.
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> Ahem…
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> Have the producers, director, writers ever heard of science??? It goes into sci-fi stereotype BS right away.
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> Science guy’s father has terrible disease. Science guy works tirelessly to cure that disease.
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> Science guy gets remarkable results with ONE test subject and declares victory and wants to start with human trials.
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> That ONE test subject freaks out and based on that ONE example, the higher ups shelve the project.
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> Nobody watched that ONE test subject closely enough to notice that is was _ **pregnant, and had in fact just given birth to live young.** _ I guess checking the subject’s vital signs regulary during a drug trial was too much trouble.
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> Science guy gives experimental drug to father, who has remarkable results. He tells no one for 5 years, untl after ‘cure’ has started to fail. This causes him panic, as if alzheimer’s sufferers and their families wouldn’t give _every dime they could beg, borrow or inheret for 5 more good years._
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> Later, they have another remarkable advance with ONE subject and want to make this the focus of all their efforts. ONE GODDAAMNED SUBJECT.
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> Ceasar is wearing pants throughout most of the film. Even after he in custody and placed in an animal shelter with other chimps. He is still wearing pants.  
> OK, I can go along with him being ‘house-broken’, but he is an animal in a single pair of pants for months on end in a room with no ‘toilet’ long after an intelligent creature would have realized that wearing pants was not nessasary.
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> Why did science guy not get concerned that chimp handler is sneezing blood after being exposed to experimental drug???

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/28 "2012-03-20T18:03:47Z")

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spooje - sorry to be dense, but what movie are you referring to?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/29 "2012-03-20T18:15:32Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> spooje - sorry to be dense, but what movie are you referring to?

Rise of the Planet of the Apes

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/30 "2012-03-20T18:22:15Z")

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I would like to see a movie or book in which a white guy goes to a native tribe, becomes accepted by them, learns their ways…and is appalled.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/31 "2012-03-20T18:24:18Z")

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I would like to see the return of the morally ambiguous movies like they used to make in the 1970’s.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/32 "2012-03-20T21:20:19Z")

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I would like there not to be a blatantly obvious studio-inserted romance in any movie that doesn’t call for it

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/33 "2012-03-20T21:45:09Z")

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I would love to see the end of the rom-com. That inexplicably will probably never happen, so I would like to see one where a young, cute movie heroine not only IS able to attract men, but picks the biggest richest alpha male who promptly drop-kicks the dogged, nerdy stalkery suitor of his girlfriend straight to the moon. So long, loser! The. End.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/34 "2012-03-20T22:06:33Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I would love to see the end of the rom-com. That inexplicably will probably never happen, so I would like to see one where a young, cute movie heroine not only IS able to attract men, but picks the biggest richest alpha male who promptly drop-kicks the dogged, nerdy stalkery suitor of his girlfriend straight to the moon. So long, loser! The. End.

And then he promptly starts cheating on her, but she suffers for years in a painful marriage, finally getting up the nerve to leave him after the kids are off to college.

Mmm … wait. That isn’t funny.

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**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/35 "2012-03-20T22:18:07Z")

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I would like to see a home improvement show that holds a camera shot for more than 2.5 seconds so that I can see what the hell is going on. And get rid of those goddamn zoooooom lenses.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/36 "2012-03-20T22:22:22Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I would love to see the end of the rom-com. That inexplicably will probably never happen, so I would like to see one where a young, cute movie heroine not only IS able to attract men, but picks the biggest richest alpha male who promptly drop-kicks the dogged, nerdy stalkery suitor of his girlfriend straight to the moon. So long, loser! The. End.

Killing a pre-Annie Hall Woody Allen via time travel is your only hope. Stop off in the 80s and bump off Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant if you want insurance. And Hitler (just on time-traveler’s principle).

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/37 "2012-03-20T22:25:09Z")

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Well, in _Annie Hall_, the hot chick dumps the dweeb. And Hugh Grant _is_ the alpha male in all his movies (except maybe _Notting Hill_).

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**Author:** ![Scholar\_Beardpig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Scholar\_Beardpig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scholar_Beardpig)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/38 "2012-03-20T22:44:50Z")

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IWLTS…

- A by-the-numbers loose-cannon-cop movie where all the main characters, hero and villain both, are women, and it’s never seen as strange.
- Any film or television show where the protagonists smoke cigarettes without it being a symbol of their self-loathing or self-destructive tendancies
- A TV sitcom about a young married couple who are both kind of stupid and childlike but still nice people
- A Bioware-style RPG where you can’t get romantic with your party members
- A comic strip, written by a woman, about a little girl - like Calvin and Hobbes if Calvin was female.
- A movie set in the modern day that closely borrows the themes of the Ring of the Nibelungs, as interpreted by Shaw.
- A movie where the Chinese army are the good guys, or are an important partner to the good guys.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/39 "2012-03-20T23:08:36Z")

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More TV shows and movies that portray retarded kids realistically. Very nearly all portrayals show them as warm, loving, gentle, innocent kids. I want to see more that have temper control problems, hygiene issues, a willful streak, problems telling the truth, and other less endearing characteristics like we see in real life settings where we work with such kids.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/40 "2012-03-20T23:20:24Z")

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I would like to see less crudity, and less gratuitous violence and nudity, on TV and movies. I’d also like to see proper shutter speeds, steadicams, and edits longer than 5 seconds more often.

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