# I would like to see... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 19, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232 "2012-03-19T15:54:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/101 "2012-03-21T18:58:56Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Not the Dude. Nitpick, Walter wasn’t born Jewish. He converted for his ex-wife. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/102 "2012-03-21T19:04:59Z")
That’s why I’m asking if he counts. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/103 "2012-03-21T19:23:30Z")
And he’s not really a legitimate tough-guy hero. He’s a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/104 "2012-03-21T19:33:26Z")
But you have to admit that he’s about as far from the Jeff Goldblum-type stereotype as you can get. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/105 "2012-03-21T19:58:41Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Anaamika, drastic\_quench - I forgot to give the title of the movie I mentioned earlier with the Asian-non martial arts hero. It’s “Bridge to the Sun”. Caroll Baker is the female lead. I found the male lead, James Shigeta, very sexy. > > On tv’s “The Mentalist”, detective Cho was shown having a girlfriend. can’t remember if she was white or Asian. Who was the first male sex symbol in Hollywood–even before Valentino? [Sessue Hayakawa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sessue_Hayakawa)! ---
**Author:** ![Scholar\_Beardpig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Scholar\_Beardpig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scholar_Beardpig)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/106 "2012-03-21T20:18:25Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > This is Disney’s _Mulan_. I mean, the modern one, the PLA. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/107 "2012-03-21T21:11:44Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Not the Dude. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > But you have to admit that he’s about as far from the Jeff Goldblum-type stereotype as you can get. Walter’s good. I’ve known plenty of Jewish guys like Walter. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/108 "2012-03-21T22:17:30Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Telling stories takes a balance of economy. Certain shortcuts need to be made, especially in a movie. Movies aren’t meant to be a completely faithful reproduction of reality. These kinds of shortcuts make sense to me. The same way that conversations, especially telephone conversations, are depicted in non-realistic ways. Because everything that doesn’t advance the plot or the mood or the characters has to be abbreviated. I think its very uncreative on the part of movie makers to always go for this cliche when it could be played off some other way. Movies may not be realistic but they try their best to fake realism. This is just my pet peeve, because honestly, it would be sooooooooo easy to do it more realistically and still come off good. I just cannot believe that it is some kind of glass ceiling that they cannot break through > [@Acsenray](#): > > If you can suspend your disbelief for all the other unrealistic things that happen in a movie, I should think that fake brand names of goods should be easy. The other parts of a movie are there for a reason. You have to have a monster or killer in a horror movie otherwise the whole premise falls apart. My problem with these particular cliches is how arbitrary they are, and ultimately pointless. It would not conflict one bit with anything in a movie to see a character drink a Fanta instead of a cola brand Cola. Hell, it would save money so that the prop department doesn’t have to make it up, they could just use the soda the guy is really drinking and put that in the movie ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/109 "2012-03-21T22:17:36Z")
How about a movie about a busy business lady who has no time for love because she’s too busy with business, where she decides in the end that she _does_ feel perfectly fulfilled and she tells Matthew McConaughey (it’s always Matthew McConaughey) to take a hike? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/110 "2012-03-22T08:53:19Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Okay, well, I would say that an apartment with four bedrooms is not small and even in America it would be unusual for them all to open on the living room. > > Even then, I can understand why a sitcom would avoid having a set with a hallway. It would interfere with the theatrical flow of the action. As I said before, sitcoms are commonly filmed as theater rather than as cinema. I wasn’t asking for the set to show the hallway, just to be designed like the house has one. Have a door that opens to the hallway where the bathrooms and bedrooms are; when the people on screen yell for someone who’s in another room, you hear them come down the hallway. It is done in Spanish theater all the time. The thread was about what we would like to see. I’m sorry my dislike for seeing sets that are copied from others that make no sense in my cultural context offends you. Maybe you’d like to see movies set in Arizona where the houses have about 1m worth of cut stone, the rest of rocks, the roof is curved gables and it rains all the time. ---
**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/111 "2012-03-24T18:42:31Z")
Of course, you could make it to see them actually today … by going the Star Trek New Voyages route: get a group of people who know how to do it (either because they work(ed) in that field or have lay experience from hobby) and then write the scripts (for all the ideas mentioned, if you can, and draw lots in which order to film them) build the sets get (lay) actors sew or buy the dresses do the make-up, lighting, sound, … record on a video camera edit on a computer (network to make a big supercomputer) with special effects put on the Internet for download If you aren’t using established characters like the Trekkies do, you can even offer the option of paying money via paypal for the whole movie (and offer a short segment for free, or offer the whole movie and wait how generous people are/ how many viewers it attracts) That’s the beauty of the internet and technology today - you can work indepent of Hollywood. Even cheaper option: use some video editing software and use clips from (free domain because old) movies cut together into a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/112 "2012-03-24T22:33:33Z")
> [@brittekland](#): > > I would like to see a movie that starts with the main character backing out of his driveway, gets t-boned, killed and the movies ends. not quite the same but there was a Segal movie where he dies in the first 20 min or so…his best work ever. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/113 "2012-03-24T22:54:15Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Even then, I can understand why a sitcom would avoid having a set with a hallway. It would interfere with the theatrical flow of the action. As I said before, sitcoms are commonly filmed as theater rather than as cinema. Yep, it’s standard farce choreography. A hallway, though arguably accurate, would just interfere. I would like to see a couch that’s actually set against a wall, though. That never seems to happen in sitcoms. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/114 "2012-03-24T23:08:08Z")
> [@charmstr](#): > > That would be a terrible movie. It sounds like something they’d use for a bad SNL skit that goes on far too long and stops being funny long before that. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/115 "2012-03-28T13:52:52Z")
> [@constanze](#): > > Sadly it’s going to stay a while because deviating from the clichees cost money So, apparently, while _The Hunger Games_ has been an opening weekend smash, there is a significant contingent of fans who are very upset that one of their favorite characters, Rue, was cast as “[some black girl](http://jezebel.com/5896408/racist-hunger-games-fans-dont-care-how-much-money-the-movie-made)”: > [@](#): > > **Twitter:** why does rue have to be black not gonna lie ruined the movie > > **Twitter:** cinna and rue werent suppose to be black > > **Twitter:** why did the producer make all the good characters black > > _This girl wants to know why they “made all the good characters black.” Good people cannot possibly be black. Black people are villainous. Duh._ > > **Twitter:** why is Rue a little black girl #sticktothebookDUDE > > **Twitter:** Kk call me racist but when I found out rue was black her dead wasn’t as sad #ihatemyself The article makes the point that the actual text of the book describes many of these characters as being dark-skinned. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/116 "2012-03-28T15:03:17Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > not quite the same but there was a Segal movie where he dies in the first 20 min or so…his best work ever. Executive Decision? I agree, if so. I cheered. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/117 "2012-03-28T15:17:41Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > I would love to see the end of the rom-com. That inexplicably will probably never happen, so I would like to see one where a young, cute movie heroine not only IS able to attract men, but picks the biggest richest alpha male who promptly drop-kicks the dogged, nerdy stalkery suitor of his girlfriend straight to the moon. So long, loser! The. End. Conversely (?), I would love to see the end of the comic book movie: “Whoa, you have super powers!” “Yeah, that’s why I’m robbing you blind, fuck nuts. Here, let me break your neck for you before I have a go at your wife.” The End. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/118 "2012-03-28T15:48:23Z")
> [@constanze](#): > > Of course, you could make it to see them actually today … by going the Star Trek New Voyages route: get a group of people who know how to do it (either because they work(ed) in that field or have lay experience from hobby) and then > > write the scripts (for all the ideas mentioned, if you can, and draw lots in which order to film them) > build the sets > get (lay) actors I think that’s really offensive. You shouldn’t expect to lay your actors just because you’re letting them be in your movie, and it doesn’t matter how much lay experience you have. Be a dignified business professional and offer them a proper contract instead. ---
**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/119 "2012-03-28T15:53:38Z")
IWLTS young male actors who don’t have a three-days beard in order to appear masculine and rugged. Get a real beard - if you have the face for it - or shave like a normal person. Young male and female actors who are so filled with knowing they’re beautiful (esp. when they aren’t really) that they exude a field of conceitedness 10 miles in diameter (Tom Cruise is one of the worst, but most current actors are bad in that regard - esp. compared to 70s or 80s where actors were still actors and not pretty faces only). ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-like-to-see/616232/120 "2012-03-28T16:16:17Z")
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