# I would vote for Trump if the other candidate were ...

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 1, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-vote-for-trump-if-the-other-candidate-were/836348 "2019-07-01T15:25:26Z")\
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Supported by the Republican party. They’re the long term danger.

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n/m

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> In your “not be a politician” clause, is that limited to “have held elected office ever”, or does it include “has ever been employed in a government role at some level”?

It was elected. So like, Condoleeza Rice was mentioned and everyone would take her over Trump.

Kanye came up too :). Most people picked Kanye in that matchup

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-vote-for-trump-if-the-other-candidate-were/836348/24 "2019-07-01T19:01:13Z")

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Hm, you said no _convicted_ felons… How about OJ Simpson?

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Hm, you said no _convicted_ felons… How about OJ Simpson?

I’d probably take Trump over O.J. Simpson OR the Zodiac Killer :).

ETA: Of course O.J. _was_ convicted. Just not of murder.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-vote-for-trump-if-the-other-candidate-were/836348/26 "2019-07-01T19:04:54Z")

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Al Sharpton. He’s the only person I can see as a possible candidate who I would find as unacceptable as Trump.

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I’d say choices like Kenneth Copeland and Jerry Falwell, Jr. would be interesting tests of the GOP’s willingness to fall in line behind a genuinely awful President of their own party, but Trump’s already done the stress test on that. It’s hard to imagine that they wouldn’t fall in line.

The one, erm, _saving grace_ of those evangelical nutcases is that their fanbase, while intense, would be a bit more narrow than Trump’s. While white evangelicals form a large part of Trump’s base, that consistent 40-42% support is a good bit bigger than white evangelicalism. I think the GOP with one of those guys in the White House would get totally crushed in the next election, well beyond what happened last November. So I’d say Trump is worse than them on that account.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-vote-for-trump-if-the-other-candidate-were/836348/28 "2019-07-01T19:18:13Z")

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Even if I could vote, [Kris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kobach)[Kobach](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/kris-kobach-trump-administration-immigration-czar-demands) would never get mine.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-vote-for-trump-if-the-other-candidate-were/836348/29 "2019-07-01T19:29:08Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> For some reason the OP stipulated that the choice be “not a politician.”

If he or she is running for President then by definition they are a politician, so there’s no valid answer.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-would-vote-for-trump-if-the-other-candidate-were/836348/30 "2019-07-01T19:31:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Al Sharpton. He’s the only person I can see as a possible candidate who I would find as unacceptable as Trump.

I’d consider Al Sharpton to be a politician. He’s [run for office a number of times](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Political_campaigns).

That aside, I’d say that, short of starting a war (which Trump came within an ace of doing just days ago) any left-of-center figure would be far less dangerous than Trump, for the simple reason that not only would Republicans be united against him, but Congressional Democrats would also keep him in check.

I’ll leave alone the question of whether Trump or Sharpton would be a worse _dictator_, but as President, our small-d democratic processes would keep a Sharpton in check to a much greater degree than they do for Trump.

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> [@davidm](#):
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> If he or she is running for President then by definition they are a politician, so there’s no valid answer.

That is kind of a catch-22 that you don’t notice when there is alcohol involved. You just gotta go with it 🙂 Not a politician - current hypothetical run excluded.

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It’s so easy to be flippant about the question, but it’s very possible that I’d vote for Donald Trump over Donald Trump Jr.

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Curt Schilling  
Ted Nugent  
Dana Loesch  
Alex Jones

There’s probably a lot of people. I don’t like this game. :mad:

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> It’s so easy to be flippant about the question, but it’s very possible that I’d vote for Donald Trump over Donald Trump Jr.

I’m curious as to why that is?

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> It would have to be someone like Jerry Falwell, Jr. or Franklin Graham.
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> Trump panders to the religious right, but he doesn’t believe any of it.

AFAIK, neither of them are interested in running for public office.

My answer would be “under no circumstances.”

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Rick Santorum  
Mike Pence  
David Duke  
Dick Cheney  
Roy Moore

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Rick Santorum  
> Mike Pence  
> David Duke  
> Dick Cheney  
> Roy Moore

I think that’s why there was the no politicians rule. Because without that, it’s too easy and that is sadface. It was a fun game, like Oprah Winfrey and Dennis Rodman. Both of whom got a majority over Trump in the group I was with 🙂 We were on the fence with Vince McMahon.

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Alex Jones  
I was going to add Boris Johnson (natural born citizen), but I guess he is a politician.  
Any Fox announcer

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> [@Bone](#):
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> I think that’s why there was the no politicians rule. Because without that, it’s too easy and that is sadface. It was a fun game, like Oprah Winfrey and Dennis Rodman. Both of whom got a majority over Trump in the group I was with 🙂 We were on the fence with Vince McMahon.

:smack: Shit, I read it backwards - I thought it said no NON-politicians!

Okay, then:

Any one of the Phelps family  
Courtney Love  
Jack Dean Tyler  
Mama June  
David Miscavige  
Bob Nutting  
Does David Duke count as a politician or not? He’s run for office a number of times.

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

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