# Ia ANYBODY Enthusiastic ABout Hillary Clinton? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 2, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480 "2015-06-02T21:52:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480/41 "2015-06-06T21:14:29Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > …(consider this now in light of the recent Chinese hack),… You can, of course, prove that her privately sourced servers are less secure than servers from the bloated bureaucratic government? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480/42 "2015-06-06T21:39:33Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Here’s what you (and Democrats in general) are doing wrong. You’re looking to the Presidency to do that. You have to start thinking more like a parliamentary party than like you’re voting in a monarch. > > You need a leader, yeah. But who have been the leaders of the conservative movement? William F. Buckley, maybe? Grover Norquist? Rush Limbaugh? Newt Gingrich, for a while? > > The conservatives won in 1968. They shot your dreamers and you have no one left brave enough to lead you. You just have politicians who want to be moderate, President, and not dead. I could care less if Clinton is a phony or makes millions from speeches, just so long as she governs like a progressive and is competent enough and willing to use the powers of the executive branch to push progressive legislation. I have my doubts though, but I have no idea what she is truly like. There is a budding progressive movement in the US, but it isn’t really politically active. It is just a bunch of disjointed people who are angry and upset over various reasons that haven’t been united under any kind of political umbrella to push for reform. I’m not sure what you mean by monarch vs parliamentary system. In the US I’d wager only about 15-20% of the country is either tea party conservative or progressive. Maybe 1/5 is one of each, but the other 3/5 are not. However conservatives seem to be able to lead the other 4/5 of the country, progressive do not. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480/43 "2015-06-07T07:47:34Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You can, of course, prove that her privately sourced servers are less secure than servers from the bloated bureaucratic government? If her server was hacked, the government would never have had the capability to know. Which is, though certainly less than a resounding vote of confidence in Uncle Sam’s IT, a critical distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480/44 "2015-06-07T07:50:58Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > You forgot Benghazi. Obviously, you don’t respect our heroes. If a straw man falls and no one is around to waste brain cells on it, does it make a sound? \*Or, put another way: “what difference does it make???” \*I’ll still play ball with the trolls on occasion. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480/45 "2015-06-07T08:24:50Z")
I think it’s safe to say that her personal server was more secure. Everything always comes down to incentives. She wanted to make sure no one would ever get to see her email, so she had every incentive to make sure she had awesome security. The government does not have an incentive to keep your private information secure, however. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480/46 "2015-06-07T23:43:25Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I am not but I am not looking to be excited; this isn’t a revolution. I am looking to hire someone who will be competent, not nuts, not extreme, show good judgement, and able to get things that make good sense done. I want to keep out someone who will do serious harms. I came in to say that. See, a lot of us Dems are grown up and look for competence, not the rabid, childish enthusiasm so many of the Republicans inspire. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ia-anybody-enthusiastic-about-hillary-clinton/721480.md?page=2)