# iamnotbatman is a pseudo-intellectual twat. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323 "2011-01-20T14:46:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/41 "2011-01-20T17:13:46Z")
Well, he’s certainly not Batman. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/42 "2011-01-20T17:20:50Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I’ve only come across his/her posts in ATMB. S/He seems like a tamer version of BigT, always trying to explain and analyze everyone’s posts…like someone appointed him/her the spokesperson for the thread. Mostly I’m talking about the last few pages of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=592567&page=2), where it seems to be **notbatman** every other post trying to diffuse the situation. WTF? I’ll gladly admit to analyzing posts and trying to make sure both sides of an argument understand each other. But why the heck would I do what’s going on in that thread? The guy isn’t trying to diffuse the situation. He’s trying to argue that he is right, failing miserably, and not bailing. If we had to pick a poster he was like, it would be **Dio**. Yeah, I’ll never live that one Warning thread down, but I’ve been doing my best never post like that again. At the very least I will leave a thread when it seems no one agrees with me–if I haven’t already left because I was just posting my opinion and really don’t give a crap. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/43 "2011-01-20T17:23:53Z")
What happens if you’ve explored a lot about something and still find it boring? And why is it any skin off your back if I don’t like your interest? And moreover, why does anyone else care if iamnotbatman doesn’t approve of their interests? He can tell me all he wants that he thinks I am ignorant for not likinv X, doesn’t make him right or me wrong. It just makes him a little snotty. And snotty I’ve dealt with. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/44 "2011-01-20T17:27:02Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > What happens if you’ve explored a lot about something and still find it boring? that’s impossible, Robin. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/45 "2011-01-20T17:27:42Z")
Or I could, you know, listen to music that I like. It’s not like I have very limited choices in that category. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/46 "2011-01-20T17:32:49Z")
> [@villa](#): > > If there isn’t an S&M Porno spoof called Citizen Cane there damn well should be. Or a vanilla porno called Citizen Came? (Maybe set in Roman times!) ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/47 "2011-01-20T17:35:38Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Nah. We’re talking about [Citizen Cain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Noonan). [Citizen Caine](http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0011015/) has cooler sunglasses. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/48 "2011-01-20T17:42:25Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > What happens if you’ve explored a lot about something and still find it boring? Then I apologize. It’s a concept that is foreign to my own experience, so I find it difficult to accept. I tend to wonder _why_ you find it boring. Some people in that thread, for example, said that they found it boring because “it is written in a foreign language.” These sorts of statements tend to confirm my general opinion on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/49 "2011-01-20T17:45:33Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > \ I myself love bree and canonbear and people who don’t are dumb." Heh heh - “canonbear.” That’s tickling my funny bone. 😃 > [@straight\_man](#): > > \ (I was, at one point, a perfectly decent musician, too.)\ Okay, you can’t have it both ways - you were perfectly decent, or you were a musician - which was it? > [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Well, he’s certainly not Batman. I don’t think we can assume that - we don’t know what Batman’s message board style would be. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/50 "2011-01-20T17:50:56Z")
> [@iamnotbatman](#): > > Then I apologize. It’s a concept that is foreign to my own experience, so I find it difficult to accept. I tend to wonder _why_ you find it boring. \ Because not everyone has the same taste. I go with my husband to watch Shakespeare in the Park every summer, and I kinda enjoy it, but I don’t love it. He really enjoys it. I’ve read any number of Shakespeare’s plays; he’s got a degree in English; I read all the time, he reads on the john. We’re different people; it’s okay for us to like different things. Now, if someone has no experience with something and still makes a value judgement on it, that’s a whole nother thing. You can say you’re not interested in Shakespeare, and that’s fine, but you really can’t say it’s boring if you’ve never experienced it. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/51 "2011-01-20T17:57:41Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Now, if someone has no experience with something and still makes a value judgement on it, that’s a whole nother thing. You can say you’re not interested in Shakespeare, and that’s fine, but you really can’t say it’s boring if you’ve never experienced it. I don’t even think that’s true. If you’ve had experience with things similar to the thing you are passing judgment on, it’s not necessary to have direct experience with the thing you’re judging before rendering judgment. I don’t need to listen to Kid Cudi to believe that his music is shit if I’ve heard acts like him. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/52 "2011-01-20T17:59:42Z")
\*\*Cat Whisperer \*\*- But why do you think that your husband, who has a degree in English, enjoys it more than you do? I’m not saying he is “smarter” or “better” than you, lest you get that impression. I think this guy put it well, in the other thread: > [@Alka Seltzer](#): > > I think the distinction is this. To say a work of art bores you is a completely reasonable statement that does not require any defense. To say something is boring implies it is stupid and worthless. People sometimes say the latter when they mean the former. Other times “x is boring” is used by people who believe the world should conform to their tastes, and that’s a very irritating attitude to come across. > > To say Shakespeare is boring is an ignorant statement, he was a pretty sharp observer of human nature. There are lot of valid reasons why many people don’t enjoy his work (style, archaic language, absurd plot points etc.). Personally, I’ve had more enjoyment reading about his work and the impact it’s had than I’d get from actually sitting through one of his plays. I agree with him, that there is probably some confusion here regarding the distinction between “something is boring” and “x bores me,” and what is meant by it. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/53 "2011-01-20T18:00:47Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > I don’t even think that’s true. > > If you’ve had experience with things similar to the thing you are passing judgment on, it’s not necessary to have direct experience with the thing you’re judging before rendering judgment. > > I don’t need to listen to Kid Cudi to believe that his music is shit if I’ve heard acts like him. I suppose that’s true, to a certain extent. You could say, “I’m not interested in current music.” You can’t really say something’s good or bad without experiencing it, though; for example, I like Kid Cudi’s “Day and Night” just fine. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/54 "2011-01-20T18:02:59Z")
> [@iamnotbatman](#): > > I agree with him, that there is probably some confusion here regarding the distinction between “something is boring” and “x bores me,” and what is meant by it. so now you’re a pedant as well as a pseudo intellect? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/55 "2011-01-20T18:04:36Z")
> [@iamnotbatman](#): > > \*\*Cat Whisperer \*\*- But why do you think that your husband, who has a degree in English, enjoys it more than you do? I’m not saying he is “smarter” or “better” than you, lest you get that impression.\ I’ve had enough English classes to think that most English professors are idiots. My husband has had enough to be sure of it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/56 "2011-01-20T18:04:44Z")
That’s right: I’m a pedant, a moron, a retard, a pseudo-intellectual, and a douche-bag. Did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/57 "2011-01-20T18:05:30Z")
> [@iamnotbatman](#): > > That’s right: I’m a pedant, a moron, a retard, a pseudo-intellectual, and a douche-bag. Did I miss something? you’re also not batman. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/58 "2011-01-20T18:07:32Z")
Anything else? My annual self-evaluation is coming up! ---
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/59 "2011-01-20T18:08:31Z")
> [@iamnotbatman](#): > > I agree with him, that there is probably some confusion here regarding the distinction between “something is boring” and “x bores me,” and what is meant by it. When you hear someone say that something is boring, do you take that to mean that it is boring for every single person on earth and therefore it is boring for you as well? Or do you take it to mean that the person saying it finds that particular “thing” to be boring? Does it insult you in some way if I say something is boring, rather than say it bores me specifically? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323/60 "2011-01-20T18:09:30Z")
> [@iamnotbatman](#): > > That’s right: I’m a pedant, a moron, a retard, a pseudo-intellectual, and a douche-bag. Did I miss something? No hyphen in douchebag. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iamnotbatman-is-a-pseudo-intellectual-twat/568323.md?page=4)