# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/301 "2026-01-17T03:06:02Z")
That, and the fact that he can try, over and over and over and over again, dragging others through a living hell without any real consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/302 "2026-01-17T03:13:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So if he has this authority, what’s stopping him from using it? No dictator just poofs into existence. They work towards it in slow(ish), incremental steps. Grabbing a little more power as each day passes. Then, usually, there is a dramatic lunge when they seize complete power and everyone is well and truly fucked. Trump is working on this very thing now and he is well on his way. The parallels in history are not hard to find or even uncommon. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/303 "2026-01-17T03:18:45Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > They work towards it in slow(ish), incremental steps. Which stage in the incremental process is it where only a third of the population approves of his performance, the majority thinks his policies are hurting the country, and his own party is publicly breaking with him? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/304 "2026-01-17T03:23:50Z")
Call me when ICE goes home and leaves cities alone. Trump stops federalizing the National Guard, stops threatening to invade NATO allies to take their country (Greenland, Canada), stops kidnapping foreign leaders, stops shooting up boats and killing the people on them on the open ocean, stop capturing foreign oil tankers and taking their oil (and [reportedly holding the millions in proceeds from those sales in a Qatari bank](https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/15/business/qatar-venezuela-oil-sale-account)), stops threatening companies and law firms to do his bidding or else, stops using the DOJ to settle personal grudges and probably more. That is just off the top of my head. Don’t get me started on what he has done to things like the EPA and Department of Education and CDC and FEMA and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/305 "2026-01-17T03:29:30Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Trump stops federalizing the National Guard This one at least has already happened. > **[President Trump threatened to use the Insurrection Act in Chicago and...](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/trump-insurrection-act-chicago-illinois/)** > > President Trump threatened Thursday to invoke the Insurrection Act to quell anti-ICE protests in Minnesota. He previously threatened to do so in Chicago, but never followed through. He was frustrated in his efforts and gave up. He’ll bluster but he lost that one already. > At the beginning of 2026, President Trump said he’s dropping — for now — his push to deploy National Guard troops in Chicago, Los Angeles and Portland, Oregon, in the wake of repeated legal setbacks. That doesn’t mean he’s done trying to find ways to be a dictator, but this particular angle seems over. Small comfort since you know he’s just going to do something else instead. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/306 "2026-01-17T03:33:02Z")
So long as they can play Candy Crush and watch Housewives shows, most of the public wouldn’t leave their house unless it was on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/307 "2026-01-17T03:33:42Z")
Dropping for now does not equate to stopped. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/308 "2026-01-17T03:39:42Z")
Has anyone pointed out to Good’s wife that she is actually a winner? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/309 "2026-01-17T03:40:05Z")
I think he’s given up and just claimed it’s “for now” to not admit he lost. I don’t know what he’s going to do to get around the rulings that say he can’t nationalize without a real emergency. Maybe he can get SCOTUS to intervene, but if so I don’t know why he hasn’t already done that yet. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/310 "2026-01-17T03:42:14Z")
No matter what has been ruled, or by who, do you think he has given up on harassing Hillary Clinton and threatening to put her in prison? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/311 "2026-01-17T03:43:18Z")
I’ve been told that he can just declare her a terrorist and insurrectionist and detain her indefinitely. I guess he must just not feel like it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/312 "2026-01-17T03:48:38Z")
Exactly. Today. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/313 "2026-01-17T03:49:05Z")
Hell, Congress is probably going to press for her to go to jail over the contempt charge. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/314 "2026-01-17T03:49:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’ve been told that he can just declare her a terrorist and insurrectionist and detain her indefinitely. I guess he must just not feel like it. Naw…he’s not there yet. The Clintons are clearly white people and also quite wealthy. Trump can’t freak-out that group of people yet which is what that would do. Again, the road to dictator is incremental and takes some time to get supreme power but make no mistake Trump is working on it as should be obvious. Have no doubt though that Clinton is on Trump’s short list of people he wants to get vengeance on. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/315 "2026-01-17T03:50:32Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Again, the road to dictator is incremental and takes some time to get supreme power but make no mistake Trump is working on it as should be obvious. And he’s failing at it. A dictator needs popular support and the ability to effectively suppress opposition, and Trump has neither. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/316 "2026-01-17T04:14:36Z")
He clearly had enough popular support to become the most powerful man in the country. Once in power, an authoritarian no longer needs people to like him, so long as they fear him. And he clearly has suppressed dissent enough to stay in power. If that changes, the beatings will increase until morale improves. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/317 "2026-01-17T04:20:30Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Once in power, an authoritarian no longer needs people to like him, so long as they fear him. Which we don’t. Well, maybe some of y’all do, since you believe in a version of him that’s much more powerful and capable than the one who exists in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/318 "2026-01-17T04:21:10Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Naw…he’s not there yet. The Clintons are clearly white people and also quite wealthy. And yet Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who is much less wealthy and white, is a free man. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/319 "2026-01-17T04:22:59Z")
Then why aren’t there millions of people in the streets like Iran, despite the killing of over 2,000 demonstrators? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/320 "2026-01-17T04:25:05Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Then why aren’t there millions of people in the streets > **[October 2025 No Kings protests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2025_No_Kings_protests)** > > Protestors > United States Federal Government > No Kings protests (also called No Kings 2.0 and No Kings Day 2.0) took place on October 18, 2025, as part of a series of demonstrations taking place largely in the United States against Donald Trump's policies and actions during his second presidency. The demonstrations, which followed the June 2025 No Kings protests, took place in some 2,700 locations across the country, including the National Mall in Washington, D.C., Chicago, and New York City. > Organizers of the protests estimated that the protests drew nearly 7 million attendees, while a partnership between data journalist G. Elliott Morris and the Xylom, an independent Atlanta-based science newsroom, estimated 5 million to 6.5 million participants. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=17)