# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/461 "2026-01-26T15:23:05Z")
I must say, as much contempt I have for the feckless American public who, while living in a free society and benefiting from it throughout their lives, just cannot be arsed to clearly recognise, condemn, and fight the wave of fascist political violence and insanity that stems from the alt-right MAGA movement (and now government).. There are some honestly righteous protestors in the streets who are actively challenging ICE. Despite the cold and the threats of violence. Good and Pretti were good people, who’s deaths was cheered on by the US executive before their blood went cold. Yet somehow we have people who are “on the fence”. I just do not understand humans. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/462 "2026-01-26T15:26:38Z")
Here’s the Fox News spin machine in action. Key quote: > Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. There are _Marxist-Leninist_ cells operating in the United States? In 2026?? Since they had already mentioned communist cells, how would a Marxist-Leninist cell differ from a plain old ordinary communist cell? > **[The far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm's way, then made him...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr)** > > Encrypted chats show activists tracked ICE agents using a sophisticated database before the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. They then used it to mobilize agitators. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/463 "2026-01-26T15:34:32Z")
It’s like the difference beween the Judean People’s Front and the People’s Front of Judea. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/464 "2026-01-26T16:05:19Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Yet somehow we have people who are “on the fence”. I just do not understand humans. Because there are millions of people who live in information bubbles completely (and deliberately) disconnected from reality. To them, Seattle and Portland were razed to the ground in 2020, George Soros is paying literally millions of professional leftist agitators, Tren de Aragua have taken over several American cities and Haitian immigrants are eating our pets. And these bubbles are impenetrable. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/465 "2026-01-26T16:12:41Z")
Don’t forget the areas in every major (read: blue) US city (that hasn’t been burned to the ground) where Sharia law prevails and the police fear to go. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/466 "2026-01-26T16:15:03Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It amazes me how much mileage conservatives get out of the Antifa boogeyman. It amazes me that the right has not yet infiltrated Antifa and collected all that “paid agitator” money as well as exposed them on Fox News! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/467 "2026-01-26T16:28:15Z")
But that’s just it. They’ve heard that someone’s roommate’s friend’s cousin did just that. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/468 "2026-01-26T16:38:46Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Because there are millions of people who live in information bubbles completely I’ve been saying for awhile now (and I’m not sure I’m not the only one) that we are living in a post-reality reality. Don’t like reality? No problem, just substitute your preferred reality and go with it. And as much as I think generative AI can be a positive force, it just makes things worse and easier to blur the lines. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/469 "2026-01-26T16:49:19Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It amazes me how much mileage conservatives get out of the Antifa boogeyman. A thing that does not exist yet they scare so many with it.. It’s like the hate for an imaginary [Emmanuel Goldstein.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein) I’m starting to think that the current administration is treating Orwell’s 1984 as an instruction manual. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/470 "2026-01-26T16:52:17Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Don’t like reality? No problem, just substitute your preferred reality and go with it. At the beginning of the internet age I argued with my dad that it was a good thing. It opened communication. How could that be bad? As it turns out it is bad. It allows idiots to find like-minded other idiots and reinforce their idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/471 "2026-01-26T17:00:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m starting to think that the current administration is treating Orwell’s 1984 as an instruction manual. Especially the part where they tell the people to reject the evidence of their eyes and ears. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/472 "2026-01-26T17:05:26Z")
\<\< deleted…didn’t say anything new \>\> ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/473 "2026-01-26T18:00:08Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > It amazes me that the right has not yet infiltrated Antifa and collected all that “paid agitator” money as well as exposed them on Fox News! Project Veritas shut down after it was sued into oblivion by all the people who they defamed. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/474 "2026-01-27T02:11:33Z")
Legal Eagle checks in. He is depressed over the ICE execution. [![](https://images.spot.im/v1/production/nvsb6rkdnd645xyzz0cx) ](https://images.spot.im/v1/production/nvsb6rkdnd645xyzz0cx) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/475 "2026-01-27T16:08:07Z")
[![](https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/02f0904/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1280x720+0+0/resize/1280x720!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2F2e%2F05%2Fd799b2f1445684b261dd7af7bd63%2Faceofspades.png) ](https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/02f0904/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1280x720+0+0/resize/1280x720!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2F2e%2F05%2Fd799b2f1445684b261dd7af7bd63%2Faceofspades.png) > **[DHS investigates 'death cards' ICE agents reportedly left inside detainees'...](https://www.tmj4.com/politics/immigration/dhs-investigates-death-cards-ice-agents-allegedly-left-inside-detainees-cars-in-colorado)** > > The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is investigating actions by ICE agents in Eagle County following reports agents left ace of spades cards inside the vehicles of detainees. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/476 "2026-01-27T18:36:45Z")
What, now they’re trying to leave calling cards like a Batman villain?! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/477 "2026-01-27T19:46:09Z")
Eh, I can sort of see it as “If you have any questions or concerns about your interaction, here’s the contact information for where to address your inquiries”. Putting it on an ace of spades seems questionable, though. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/478 "2026-01-27T20:14:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Eh, I can sort of see it as “If you have any questions or concerns about your interaction, here’s the contact information for where to address your inquiries”. That’s what _real_ business cards are for. Something like this. [![](https://www.cobraprint.com/Images/Agency/Federal/ICE/SampleCards/DHS_Design_4Color_Seal.jpg) ](https://www.cobraprint.com/Images/Agency/Federal/ICE/SampleCards/DHS_Design_4Color_Seal.jpg) > [@Chronos](#): > > Putting it on an ace of spades seems questionable, though. That’s what I’m referring to. It makes it look like they’re treating it as a game (which is probably the truth and the reason why they use these cards). ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/479 "2026-01-27T20:44:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Putting it on an ace of spades seems questionable, though. It’s unprofessional. That’s one thing rampant with ICE is the aggressive unprofessionalism. No uniform, no particular standards, no rules of engagement. Everybody is wearing some unique collection of camo or non-camo with a patch sewn on somewhere. The lead up to the Pretti shooting had these guys just two handed shoving women around, like they’re having a fight outside a bar at 2am. It’s disgraceful, and is part of why this whole thing is a shit show. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/480 "2026-01-27T23:14:15Z")
> During the Vietnam War, the ace of spades was used as a tool of psychological warfare as it was common practice by US soldiers to leave the ace card on the bodies of killed Vietnamese. > [Ace of spades - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_of_spades#War) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=25)