# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps

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**Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/41 "2026-01-07T20:57:41Z")

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That was tough to watch. The agent who shot her was in front of her car when she started driving and so was theoretically at risk (I suppose), but he was able to easily move out of the way of her vehicle while firing at least 3 times into the driver. Doesn’t look like he is particularly fearful of his life. Looks like he wanted to do some shooting.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/42 "2026-01-07T20:59:08Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I suspect he doesn’t know this and thinks he was shown an exclusive video.

Of course he knows it. The whole modus operandi for Trump and every Republican in office at the moment is to intentionally lie about verifiable things in order to further deepen their control on the reality of their constituents. To think that he (and others) only lie when the truth isn’t in plain sight ignores a year’s worth of evidence to the contrary.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/43 "2026-01-07T21:00:53Z")

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Nobody got run over as far as I can see. She wasn’t even really running. Just got killed.

This is murder.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/44 "2026-01-07T21:05:08Z")

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Link please

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/45 "2026-01-07T21:07:31Z")

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> **[Video shows moment ICE officer fatally shoots woman in Minneapolis | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/us/video/ice-shooting-minneapolis-digvid)**
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> Video taken by a witness shows the moment an ICE officer fatally shot a woman in a vehicle in Minneapolis on Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/46 "2026-01-07T21:09:22Z")

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These “agents” will not even be questioned, let alone arrested. It’s murder. Plain and simple. Can’t wait for updates and find out more about the victim.

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**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/47 "2026-01-07T21:11:51Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> These “agents” will not even be questioned, let alone arrested.

from the video, it looked like it was only one agent who shot to me. Do not disagree with you otherwise

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/48 "2026-01-07T21:16:40Z")

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Yeah, one agent shot. What were the rest doing? Obviously not supervising. WTF…

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/49 "2026-01-07T21:18:39Z")

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When does the spark light the powder keg? Is this it? We had a few internment nationwide marches last year and around me there are Tesla protests with a handful of old people on a daily basis, but when does the fight get fucking real?

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/50 "2026-01-07T21:20:47Z")

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Not sure.

But there needs to be some kind of resistance to this action.

This guy needs to be ostracized and shamed in public media at the very least.

He should be arrested and charged with murder but that’s not going to happen.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/51 "2026-01-07T21:38:16Z")

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This is just getting worse and worse. My wife and I are paficists. But I do own guns that where given to me by family. Inherited. I used to target shoot a lot.

It won’t help, but I’m going to buy a revolver more suitable for my wife. And she will take profesional training. This is an if it really, really does go to hell even worse than it is move. I want my wife to understand firearms, period. I’d like her to be able to pick up any weapon, and be able to shoot it. This is a start.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/52 "2026-01-07T21:40:24Z")

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This is just a horrifying story. The incident happened about a mile from where I live and is close to a major hospital. The woman was clearly just trying to move out of the mess and was murdered for it. This is the stuff that sparks riots and more death. Sadly, with the hiring of untrained and unqualified thugs, it was bound to happen, and will happen again and again.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/53 "2026-01-07T21:47:21Z")

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> [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](#):
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> The agent who shot her was in front of her car when she started driving and so was theoretically at risk (I suppose), but **he was able to easily move out of the way of her vehicle** while firing at least 3 times into the driver. Doesn’t look like he is particularly fearful of his life. Looks like he wanted to do some shooting.

This (my bolding inside the quote). And why was it “gun out” for a woman turning her car around? Not someone wanted by law enforcement—just a woman turning her car around.

But you can bet the Trumpites will be pushing the “she was going to run him over so he had no choice” lie far and wide.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> When does the spark light the powder keg? Is this it? We had a few internment nationwide marches last year and around me there are Tesla protests with a handful of old people on a daily basis, but when does the fight get fucking real?

I hear you, but at the same time it’s DONALD and Stephen et al who want it to get “real”-----so that they can get away with declaring martial law.

I don’t think we should be in a rush to accommodate them.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/54 "2026-01-07T21:50:01Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Sadly, with the hiring of untrained and unqualified thugs

No vetting of these people (so far as I’ve heard). Mental/emotional illness is not a disqualifier, clearly.

As @We_re_wolves_not_werewolves wrote up there: “looks like he wanted to do some shooting.” You just know they gin each other up with nauseating chest-thumping about being Rambos and such. Sick little m-effers.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/55 "2026-01-07T21:55:06Z")

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Victim identified by her mother:

[https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426](https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/56 "2026-01-07T22:03:20Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I hear you, but at the same time it’s DONALD and Stephen et al who want it to get “real”-----so that they can get away with declaring martial law.
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> I don’t think we should be in a rush to accommodate them.

Yeah I know. It just seems like _something_ needs to happen otherwise we all sit idly by while our country slips when further into the abyss. Doing nothing feels like an endorsement.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/57 "2026-01-07T22:03:36Z")

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They are killing people to keep an insurectionist and over all traitor and horible person out of prison. Lovely.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/58 "2026-01-07T22:06:18Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Doing nothing feels like an endorsement.

I wouldn’t advocate for doing nothing. But protests need to be VERY disciplined. Silent people holding signs–in the millions. Maybe **not** right in front of an ICE facility. In front of other federal buildings, would be smarter. Signs can be explicit about ICE lawlessness and how it’s unacceptable.

Don’t give the fascists any excuses.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/59 "2026-01-07T22:27:32Z")

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Can’t the Minneapolis cops arrest the murderer?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/60 "2026-01-07T22:34:08Z")

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Many people are demanding an arrest on bluesky local news stations. Do that! Round up the ICE vehicles and find the guy.

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