# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/581 "2026-03-04T20:49:10Z")
A lot of the atrocities were committed by veteran ICE officers who went through better training. It’s more of a cultural problem. Trump sets the tone all the way down - we want you to be brutal, we want you to be our masked goons, we want you to be our SA. Training might help here and there, but they won’t fix the fundamental culture. That said, stripping out how to be responsible agents of the government IS part of the way they’re shaping the culture of DHS, but restoring good training is treating a symptom, not the disease. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/582 "2026-03-04T21:23:05Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > A lot of the atrocities were committed by veteran ICE officers who went through better training. It’s more of a cultural problem. That’s true. And I do think that cutting out that training was part of the signal to even the veterans that they don’t have to worry about that shit anymore, because they are now anonymous secret police and the administration will cover for anything they do. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/583 "2026-03-04T23:25:47Z")
Noem is either lying, incompetent or stupid. Most likely a combination of all three. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/584 "2026-03-07T22:33:16Z")
Guards at the largest ICE concentration camp are making bets on which captive will commit suicide next. > **[At Largest ICE Detention Camp, Staff Bet on Detainee Suicides, AP Reports](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/03/at-largest-ice-detention-camp-staff-bet-on-detainee-suicides-ap-reports/)** > > Camp East Montana has received several 911 calls in the span of five months about immigrants trying to harm themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/585 "2026-03-07T23:49:36Z")
CHIEF WIGGUM: I can assure you, the police do not take prisoners out of their cells and race them. Anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/586 "2026-03-07T23:55:43Z")
They ran out of squirrels to put in their pants, so they have to bet on **something**. [![](https://i.imgur.com/7bSLe9w.gif) ](https://i.imgur.com/7bSLe9w.gif) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/587 "2026-03-08T01:52:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Guards at the largest ICE concentration camp are making bets on which captive will commit suicide next. “are we the baddies?” ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/588 "2026-03-08T06:35:32Z")
ICE domestic terrorists caught lying and covering up another murder of an American citizen. > **Bodycam video contradicts ICE claims in fatal shooting of U.S. citizen Ruben Ray Martinez in Texas** > > Video of the March 2025 fatal shooting of American citizen Ruben Ray Martinez obtained by CBS News appears to contradict claims by federal officials that Martinez was shot by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent because he “accelerated” and “intentionally ran over” another agent with his car. > > The killing of Martinez, who was 23 at the time, in South Padre Island, Texas, on March 15, 2025, was reported by local news outlets at the time. But it was not until February of this year, nearly 11 months later, that [ICE confirmed one of its agents](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-agent-fatally-shot-u-s-citizen-nearly-one-year-ago-texas-ruben-ray-martinez/) had fatally shot Martinez. > **[Bodycam video contradicts ICE claims in fatal shooting of U.S. citizen Ruben...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bodycam-video-ice-fatal-shooting-ruben-ray-martinez-texas/)** > > Video of last year's fatal shooting of Ruben Ray Martinez obtained by CBS News appears to contradict claims that Martinez was shot by an ICE agent because he "accelerated" and "intentionally ran over" another agent. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/589 "2026-03-14T11:36:03Z")
Re-entering the US last night at DFW, I mistakenly crossed the “yellow line” on the floor at passport control by a few inches. As I backed up, the officer (smiling and jokingly) motioned toward his sidearm. I said “Dude, that’s not funny at all!” He recovered quickly, and still smiling, pulled out his handcuffs, before waving me through. These people are dangerous fucks. Not that it would have mattered, but I’m really sorry I didn’t get his name. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/590 "2026-03-14T12:11:14Z")
“haha I could kill you for stepping 1 inch over a yellow line and get away with it because we’re a lawless bunch of thugs isn’t that hilarious”? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/591 "2026-03-14T12:22:43Z")
We are a nation that elected a notorious racist convicted felon to be our president. We suck. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/592 "2026-03-16T11:20:08Z")
My wife and I had just got back from a Mexican vacation. We try to immerse ourselves in the culture a little, and respect their differences. The customs officer when returning asked if we where American citizens, We both immediately said Sí ! Then we looked at each other and started laughing, that ‘Sí’ just came out naturally, we had been in Mexico for a couple of weeks. The customs officer didn’t think it was funny at all. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/593 "2026-03-16T11:32:11Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The customs officer didn’t think it was funny at all. I have found that they have no humor at all. Whenever I need to interact with them I try to be as emotionless as possible. I pretend I am a Vulcan from Star Trek on occasion. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/594 "2026-03-16T11:35:27Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > Re-entering the US last night at DFW, I mistakenly crossed the “yellow line” on the floor at passport control by a few inches. As I backed up, the officer (smiling and jokingly) motioned toward his sidearm. I said “Dude, that’s not funny at all!” He recovered quickly, and still smiling, pulled out his handcuffs, before waving me through.. > > These people are dangerous fucks. Not that it would have mattered, but I’m really sorry I didn’t get his name. That is terrifying. I almost don’t want to travel these days. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/595 "2026-03-16T11:37:41Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The customs officer when returning asked if we where American citizens, We both immediately said Sí ! > > Then we looked at each other and started laughing, that ‘Sí’ just came out naturally, we had been in Mexico for a couple of weeks. To be fair, that sounds like the type of joke they’d probably already heard a dozen times already that day. Like when a cashier holds that hundred dollar bill up to the light to check and the customer says “it should be good, I just made it this morning hurr durr”. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/596 "2026-03-16T12:13:06Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > To be fair, that sounds like the type of joke they’d probably already heard a dozen times already that day. Well, we didn’t mean it as a joke at all, we just said it naturally since we had been in Mexico for a while, that’s what made it funny to us. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/597 "2026-03-16T12:37:31Z")
I just saw a YouTube video that really has me confused as to who to cheer against. A SovCit blew off her scheduled court hearing and border patrol picked her up. Who do I dislike worse? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/598 "2026-03-16T13:10:47Z")
SovCits will always be there. There’s still hope that ICE can be abolished. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/599 "2026-03-16T16:18:22Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > > [@enipla](#): > > > > The customs officer didn’t think it was funny at all. > > I have found that they have no humor at all. And may we remember, the Border guys have displayed the whole “license to be assholes to the citizen” schtick since way before Homeland Sec existed. But at least, small consolation, once it used to only be encountered at the actual crossing and not involve immediate fear of lethal force. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/600 "2026-03-21T21:26:12Z")
Much like most of the posters on this board, I wanted DHS to continue to be underfunded and there to be a partial government shutdown due to No deal being reached due to the Democrats holding out continually. But Donald Trump is now saying, if it doesn’t end by monday, he simply going to replace the TSA agents with ICE agents. > **[Trump threatens to deploy ICE agents to airports Monday if funding deal isn’t...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/21/politics/ice-agents-airports-tsa-trump-threat)** > > President Donald Trump said Saturday he will deploy Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to US airports on Monday if an agreement isn’t reached to fund the Department of Homeland Security amid a partial government shutdown. Which come I don’t see is being a good thing either, so I really don’t know what should happen at this point. I mean if I were a leader of the democrats, and it’s a good thing I’m not, I would probably say something like “okay, fine. DHS will never ever reopen again then, it can stay shut down for the rest of time. No deal ever.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=31)