# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps

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**Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/61 "2026-01-07T22:37:55Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Round up the ICE vehicles and find the guy.

They’re all staying in regional hotels. It shouldn’t be hard to find them.

Except, we know it isn’t [this Hilton.](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hilton-removes-minneapolis-hotel-that-cancelled-reservation-immigration-agents-2026-01-06/)

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/62 "2026-01-07T22:38:07Z")

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> **[Mayor Jacob Frey tells ICE to 'get the f--- out of Minneapolis,' rejects DHS...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayor-jacob-frey-tells-ice-get-f-out-minneapolis-rejects-dhs-self-defense-statement.amp)**
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> Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey told federal immigration authorities to leave the city after a woman was fatally shot during an ICE operation, prompting DHS pushback.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/63 "2026-01-08T01:13:01Z")

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Thousands have now shown up for vigil to Rene Nicole Good. Star Tribune seems on top of this story more than others.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/64 "2026-01-08T01:13:41Z")

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[https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426](https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426)

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/65 "2026-01-08T01:24:12Z")

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America is dead. What used to be America has been shot down in the street like a dog.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/66 "2026-01-08T01:40:21Z")

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Anybody know if Noem is still standing by her story (I’m making this up) that she shot [**Cricket**](https://bestfriends.org/stories/julie-castle-blog/my-thoughts-on-kristi-noem-killing-her-dog-cricket) in self-defense?

> _If you’d seen the way my 14-month old, female, wire-haired Pointer was looking at me, then you’d know I had every reason to fear for my life_

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/67 "2026-01-08T02:47:25Z")

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Normally I think it’s unprofessional when politicians use profanity, but in this case I really can’t think of a better way to put it.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/68 "2026-01-08T03:00:09Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Gov. Walz gonna speak soon.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yOliU7X1fEg/maxresdefault.jpg "Victor Laszlo Gets a Crowd To Sing "La Marseillaise" (Clip) | Casablanca (1942) | TCM") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOliU7X1fEg)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/69 "2026-01-08T04:24:13Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> …And just killed a woman in Minneapolis
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> [https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-fraud-state-reps-testify-01-07-26?post-id=cmk4ah6c000003j6qp7b4uzf0](https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-fraud-state-reps-testify-01-07-26?post-id=cmk4ah6c000003j6qp7b4uzf0)

According to [this video](https://youtu.be/IkyRSBKC6uw?si=oSudgHQ8glqWl4zH), a bystander identified himself as a physician and asked to check for a pulse on the woman, or render any aid he could. He was denied that chance. After identifying himself as a doctor, the ICE agent said (audible in the linked clip), “I don’t care.”

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/70 "2026-01-08T04:58:55Z")

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The Minneapolis schools will be closed Thursday and Friday. I don’t know if I’d want to send my kids to school when the street situation is so tense, but I also wouldn’t know how to explain to little kids why there’s no school.

They can’t use remote learning days, because of some rule that says they’re only for snow days and other weather emergencies. Maybe the rule should get modified in case of police state lockdowns.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/71 "2026-01-08T05:34:33Z")

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Indivisible is a national progressive organization with thousands of independent chapters around the country. It was one of the lead groups in organizing the Hands Off and two No Kings rallies last year that were among the largest peaceful protests ever held in this country. Founded by two former congressional staffers during the first Trump administration, it is committed to non-violent resistance to the Trump regime.

[Click here](https://groups.indivisible.org/) to find and join your local chapter.

They are hosting a call tomorrow to plan responses to this outrage.

> **[Rapid Response Call: ICE Killing and Lawlessness in Minneapolis · Indivisible](https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/event/881793/?utm_source=indivisible)**
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> Join us to Thursday, January 8th, at 8:00 pm ET / 5:00 pm PT to discuss the killing by ICE in Minneapolis and their lawlessness and harm in communities across the country. 
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> We will talk with local and national leaders and provide concrete next steps...

I strongly recommend signing up for the call, joining your local chapter, and participating in whatever events are being held in your area.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/72 "2026-01-08T05:51:59Z")

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They’ve got to find him first. I have seen (un)WANTED posters depicting two different men, with several different names floating around.

Just wait until all the RWNJs find out that Ms. Good was in a same-sex marriage.

> **[Distraught woman says ICE killed her wife in video after deadly Minneapolis...](https://www.advocate.com/news/minnesota-ice-killed-wife)**
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> “They killed my wife,” the distraught woman says, adding, “They shot her in the head.”

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/73 "2026-01-08T08:00:21Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> They really are the brown shirts.

This is a good historical callback, but I would suggest (and I’ve mentioned this in at least one other thread) that a better modern comparison might be the _Basij_ in Iran. They are an irregular auxiliary, made up mostly of volunteers, which is tasked with keeping internal order (versus the formal Revolutionary Guard, which is the external-facing military). Members of the Basij roam the country, looking for dissidents and unrest. When there are wide-scale protests, it’s the Basiji who are on the front lines of cracking down.

More information here.

> **[Basij](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basij)**
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> The Basij (Persian: بسيج, lit. 'Mobilization'), formally Sâzmân-e Basij-e Mostaz'afin (سازمان بسیج مستضعفین, 'Organization for Mobilization of the Oppressed'), is a paramilitary volunteer militia within the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and one of its five branches. An individual member is called basiji in the Persian language. As of July 2019\[update\], Gholamreza Soleimani is the commander of the Basij.
> Established in Iran in 1979 by order of Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of the Irania...

If you want to see how the Iranian state represents this organization, there is a 20-plus minute **[propaganda video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0wC2STYZo)** you can watch. It’s long and boring, but it’s noteworthy how the mission is described and promoted — they are a “people’s force” focused on peacekeeping. In the real world, Iranians know they’re lawless thugs who crack heads and crush dissent, but that’s not the official sales pitch.

The Iranian people usually keep their heads down and passively suffer the Basij’s abuse. However, tensions rise from time to time, and the people get fed up and snap back. For comparison purposes, this very recent short video will be instructive.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/H6QYrdt6FE8/maxresdefault.jpg "Iran Protest: Iranian Protesters Set Fire to Basij Base Amid Fourth Day of Unrest | NewsX") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6QYrdt6FE8)

Incidentally, for historical reference, you may remember the incident from 2009 where a woman who was traveling peacefully through a protest area was shot and killed. Her murderer was a Basiji, and her death was caught on video, triggering a massive escalation in protester outrage.

> **[Killing of Neda Agha-Soltan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Neda_Agha-Soltan)**
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> Neda Agha-Soltan (Persian: ندا آقاسلطان – Nedā Āghā-Soltān; 23 January 1983 – 20 June 2009) was an Iranian student of philosophy, who was participating in the 2009 presidential election protests with her music teacher, and was walking back to her car when she was fatally shot in the upper chest.
> Eyewitnesses are reported by Western sources as saying Agha-Soltan was shot by a militiaman belonging to Basij paramilitary organization. Her death was captured on video by bystanders and broadcast ove...

The potential relevance of this woman’s killing to current events is left as an exercise for the reader.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/74 "2026-01-08T09:15:19Z")

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This is really frightening now that I’ve seen this aftermath video. Every Fed statement is a lie, and I hope media calls it that. Lies.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/75 "2026-01-08T09:18:35Z")

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Just a reminder that while Trump and the MAGAs are justifying this murder, they’re also busily claiming that Ashli Babbitt was an innocent victim.

Because lies, hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy is all they have.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/76 "2026-01-08T12:19:47Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> They’ve got to find him first. I have seen (un)WANTED posters depicting two different men, with several different names floating around.

I’ve seen info on the truck he got out of… plate #, VIN number, all of the trucks details. It could be traced back to the owner of the truck which is likely one of those two men. Obviously I won’t post it here… maybe some soothing music instead?

![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/y_Ol8avCkXg/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/y_Ol8avCkXg?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDy_Ol8avCkXg

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/77 "2026-01-08T13:28:37Z")

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I seriously doubt ICE nazis are driving their own personal vehicles on raids.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/78 "2026-01-08T13:49:26Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Just wait until all the RWNJs find out that Ms. Good was in a same-sex marriage.

Yes, Jesse Watters is already banging that drum, along with “she listed her preferred pronouns” and “she had a child from a previous marriage” (somehow ignoring the fact that this is because her spouse died in 2023). Because Watters remains a morally bankrupt scumbag.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/79 "2026-01-08T14:33:31Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I seriously doubt ICE nazis are driving their own personal vehicles on raids.

While I agree with you, with the administration, who knows? There’s something fundamentally wrong deep inside with anyone that wants to be ICE, so maybe they just accept “you have to drive yourself, we don’t have budget for rental cars”.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/80 "2026-01-08T15:23:55Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> “Play stupid games win stupid prizes.”
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> People who professed to have watched the videos and think the agent was 100% justified.
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> Reality means nothing anymore.

Half of the online comments I’ve read were “FAFO” (a phrase that has worn out its welcome in record time). Undoubtedly from people who know nothing about the incident but assume that anything ICE does is just hunky-dory.

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