# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/121 "2026-01-09T22:40:48Z")
I’d like to quote Heather Cox Richardson’s take on this shooting: > [@](#): > > The shooting of Miss Good is a [game changer] in that for the first time, white Americans can see on their phones the power of the state being used to kill somebody just like them. And that is a political story because if Trump loses those white suburban moms especially, but white suburban people, he can’t put together any kind of a winning coalition. [**YouTube video - should be cued up**](https://youtu.be/CQPOHCoTbgE?t=712) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/122 "2026-01-09T22:52:31Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That could destroy Republicans in the elections. > > A video showing a smiling woman, no hate in her eyes or voice, reassuring an ICE officer that she isn’t mad. Followed seconds later by being shot. And then a montage of administration officials, including Trump himself, insisting that she is a terrorist. > > If put like that in front of people, it should be a gut punch to almost anyone who isn’t already deeply in the MAGA cult. I think this could be correct. The video should show the victim **very visibly** turning the wheel of the car to the right (with the wheels following suit), AWAY from where the shooter was standing. Then show the liars lying (Donald, Noem, Vance—all saying some variation of ‘_she tried to run him down, he was in fear for his life_.’ Make the lies crystal-clear as lies. And as far as the lie that the shooter was ‘in fear for his life’----note that _ **he was filming the interaction the entire time** _. How does that reconcile with “afraid for his life”??? I refer to the video released today. (This Reuters page does include an ad first, but then we get the full video----including the shooter, presumably, saying “fucking bitch” after doing the murder. Note that Fox News has been showing this WITHOUT the remark. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/minneapolis-mayor-demands-transparent-investigation-into-ice-shooting-protests-2026-01-09/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/minneapolis-mayor-demands-transparent-investigation-into-ice-shooting-protests-2026-01-09/) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/123 "2026-01-09T22:54:26Z")
So Jonathan Ross was so terrified for his life that he was filming the interaction. He was MAKING CONTENT. What I want to know is: is Noem offering bonuses to ICE people who provide Content that thrills the Base?? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/124 "2026-01-09T23:00:14Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So Jonathan Ross was so terrified for his life that he was filming the interaction. > He was MAKING CONTENT. Was that what happened, or was it bodycam footage? I’m honestly unsure. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/125 "2026-01-09T23:01:57Z")
I’m going with phone footage since he’s using the recording device to get a clear picture of the license plate (another chilling detail). ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/126 "2026-01-09T23:04:30Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Was that what happened, or was it bodycam footage? I’m honestly unsure. At [0:33 in the video on this page](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/ice-shooting-live-updates-minnesota-portland-shootings-fuel-protests-rcna253165) you can see the ICE agent using his cell phone to record in the reflection on the car the woman he shot was driving. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/127 "2026-01-09T23:04:34Z")
Yeah. It sure looks like: - Pistol in his right hand - Cell phone in his left hand Just like they teach at the Academy [/s] ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/128 "2026-01-09T23:04:58Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/129 "2026-01-09T23:14:44Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Yeah. It sure looks like: > > - Pistol in his right hand > - Cell phone in his left hand > > Just like they teach at the Academy [/s] The fact that this is so bizarre is what makes me suspect he was incentivized to do this by cash (from DHS). I suppose he might be ambitious to become an Influencer, instead. Though what he’d be influencing doesn’t bear thinking of. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/130 "2026-01-09T23:15:54Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I suppose he might be ambitious to become an Influencer, instead. Though what he’d be influencing doesn’t bear thinking of. He has a Rittenhouse sort of career ahead of him, potentially. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/131 "2026-01-09T23:17:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I suppose he might be ambitious to become an Influencer, instead. Though what he’d be influencing doesn’t bear thinking of. It seems to have gone down like this: - Woman: “I am not even mad at you.” (actual quote) - ICE Agent: Bang bang (shoots and kills woman) - ICE Agent: “Fucking bitch.” (actual quote) It worries me that a lot of people in the US will see the ICE Agent as some kind of hero. He’ll probably make a lot of money on Go Fund Me for this. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/132 "2026-01-09T23:18:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He has a Rittenhouse sort of career ahead of him, potentially. They do seem like a good match, character-wise. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/133 "2026-01-09T23:22:13Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It seems to have gone down like this: > > - Woman: “I am not even mad at you.” (actual quote) > - ICE Agent: Bang bang (shoots and kills woman) > - ICE Agent: “Fucking bitch.” (actual quote) > > It worries me that a lot of people in the US will see the ICE Agent as some kind of hero. As I noted above, the word is (I haven’t confirmed) that Fox News is showing Ross’s footage but cutting before the “fucking bitch” part. Presumably in the service of, as you note, letting people see him as a hero. Fox probably likes the fact that Good and her partner were clearly being sassy with Mr. Law Enforcement, and they like the message ‘mouth off to us and you will die.’ Of course the videos we’ve seen of this, Ross’s and the first one, do NOT support “hero”. So Vance et al are yelling extra loud about the victim being Part of a Left-Wing Terror Cell. Stupid people, no doubt, are buying it. But most independents (I’d guess) will be skeptical. The Left-Wing Terror Cell thing is just so patently absurd. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/134 "2026-01-10T00:05:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But most independents (I’d guess) will be skeptical. How, how, how can you be an indpendent and be skeptical of an obvious traitor. That is not independent. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/135 "2026-01-10T00:20:40Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Maybe Nazis were too often invoked in discussion and lost credibility as an example to be drawn. No longer. The shoe fits. I am not going to apologize for such comparisons [![](https://i.ibb.co/1f2F9X8S/agxeq1.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/1f2F9X8S/agxeq1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/136 "2026-01-10T01:17:30Z")
The chief of the Standing Rock Sioux says ICE is not welcome in their territory. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:svawqo4jxobyyuqmixplvcux/bafkreiay35ypqafkpm45j5hehb6qe4rl7ggewgp6evyq2dew2z4a7mxpsu@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:svawqo4jxobyyuqmixplvcux/bafkreiay35ypqafkpm45j5hehb6qe4rl7ggewgp6evyq2dew2z4a7mxpsu@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/137 "2026-01-10T05:56:04Z")
Wounded Knee, Part Three, soon at a Fox News near you… ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/138 "2026-01-10T06:40:22Z")
> … Our tribal identification affirms our citizenship and political status. … [Tell that to Elaine Miles.](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/indigenous-actress-elaine-miles-says-ice-called-her-tribal-id-fake/) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/139 "2026-01-10T13:16:33Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > How, how, how can you be an indpendent and be skeptical of an obvious traitor. That is not independent. I don’t know about you, but I’m on the fence. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jAkRPWDpW7I/maxresdefault.jpg "Sean Lock on Hitler - 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAkRPWDpW7I) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/140 "2026-01-10T20:39:19Z")
It’s said to be forgivable that ICE guy shot her because at an earlier date, he was dragged by a suspect. In that incident, it was claimed that he broke the rear side window, and was reaching around to unlock the driver’s door. Either the car was running and he reached in, or the guy started it while the ICE agent’s arm was inside, and he left it there. Pretty stupid either way. What I don’t understand is why one of the agents didn’t feign a strike, like a basketball player pretending to be fouled. Just jumping back dramatically would have sold the regime’s narrative a little better. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=8)