# ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019 "2025-11-20T18:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/161 "2026-01-12T02:21:50Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Why in the world would he release such damning evidence? My guess is someone saw it and thought it “proved” he was struck by the vehicle, not realizing other video gives context showing that wasn’t the case. He just dropped the phone to pull out his gun. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/162 "2026-01-12T02:27:02Z")
Just think of the idea of _Perception is Reality_. They perceive Ms. Good deserved to die; therefore, the reality is she had to die. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/163 "2026-01-12T02:28:34Z")
My take on that one? Trump seems to think that a crime committed in plain sight just isn’t a crime. In much the same way as he either hires people for their proven propensity to, or has them ‘trained’ to, act belligerent, pugnacious, defensive, and to counterpunch immediately, viciously, and relentlessly (which, I assume, looks like righteous indignation to That Crowd/Those People), this _is_ the tenor of the administration. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/164 "2026-01-12T02:31:10Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > What’s the story on his personal cell phone video? Why in the world would he release such damning evidence? I mean, who wouldn’t seek to destroy proof that they were a murderer? It comes from old fashion customs. The ones from the Jim crow era when lynching minorities was a common occurrence (A time that by “coincidence” is when many MAGAs think that America was “Great”)". I pointed to a defender of Charlie Kirk that the right wing insistence to claim that the left was taking what Kirk was saying out of context, and everything would be ok if we looked at the context. (It was not, I found that Charlie was even worse) So, I said that this mentality of believing that showing to others more of what they unfairly did to a minority or to a woman, is a similar mentality as the guy that released the whole recording of his group when they [killed a black guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ahmaud_Arbery) because he sincerely thought that showing the whole context would exonerate them… racism and bigotry does give blinders to the ones that pretend to not fall for those. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/165 "2026-01-12T02:58:30Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I mean, who wouldn’t seek to destroy proof that they were a murderer? He’s been busier destroying the evidence of his Grindr account. > **[MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ice-shooter-allegedly-a-grindr-user-after-profile-tied-to-his-snapchat-vanishes-overnight/ar-AA1TWNAE)** ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/166 "2026-01-12T03:04:50Z")
I believe that when the orange cocksucker was initially briefed on the incident, he wasn’t even interested enough to understand that the incident where Ross was dragged by a car was an entirely different driver, months earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/167 "2026-01-12T03:23:19Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > My guess is someone saw it and thought it “proved” he was struck by the vehicle IIRC the video was originally released on a far right website. Which leads me to believe neither Ross nor the far right website thought there was anything wrong with it and it instead vindicated Ross or, at the least, made him some kind of hero. Since it was on his cellphone presumably Ross uploaded it thinking he was the hero in this. What a dbag. Makes his “fucking bitch” comment all the more insightful into his mindset moments after he murdered a young mother. This shows just how far they have their heads up their own asses. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/168 "2026-01-12T04:50:28Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > My guess is someone saw it and thought it “proved” he was struck by the vehicle, not realizing other video gives context showing that wasn’t the case. He just dropped the phone to pull out his gun. A lie that has been proffered on our very board. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/169 "2026-01-12T13:26:57Z")
One question I have that gets lost in the murder of an innocent woman, but…what, exactly were the ICE-ICE stormtroopers actually doing there? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/170 "2026-01-12T13:32:27Z")
Hunting subhumans, in this case Somalis because when their not trapping house pets for dinner they all run illegal daycare centers, just ask anyone from Trump on down. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/171 "2026-01-12T13:57:33Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Hunting subhumans, I wanted facts, not the regular vitriol. Was this by some home depot? Were any pet-eating Somalis taken away? What were they doing? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/172 "2026-01-12T14:50:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > ICE thug defeated by small-i ice: > > [@thetnholler.bsky.social on Bluesky](https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mc6cwmskuk2o) This is a perfect encapsulation of ICE. A federal agent exits his vehicle and starts running down the street at a member of the community. Running with purpose. After falling on his ass, and making a fool of himself, he runs back to his vehicle and drives away. If he didn’t fall down, what exactly was he intending to do? What important thing was going on that he, as a federal agent, felt impelled to exit his vehicle and rush to intervene? Did that important thing vanish when his ass hit the ice? I suggest what he was intending to do was intimidate someone, to yell at someone and throw his weight around, to make someone feel scared. That’s what vanished when his ass hit the ice. That’s why he had to leave, instead of completing the task he was rushing to do. That’s what ICE is, in a 10 second video. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/173 "2026-01-12T14:55:09Z")
YES! I felt this immediately upon seeing it, but this puts it into words. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/174 "2026-01-12T15:06:37Z")
While setting things like this to music isn’t generally considered to be a part of my remit – as a big fan of early U2 – may I suggest [**this great song**](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YQeB5iWOwgc). It captures the _**[je ne sais quoi](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/je%20ne%20sais%20quoi)**_ of this video rather conveniently. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/175 "2026-01-12T15:15:57Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > One question I have that gets lost in the murder of an innocent woman, but…what, exactly were the ICE-ICE stormtroopers actually doing there? According to the Vice President, they were in the neighborhood to conduct “a legitimate law enforcement operation… going door to door trying to find criminal illegal aliens and deport them.” > **[Aaron Rupar (@aaron.rupar) on Threads](https://www.threads.com/@aaron.rupar/post/DTQvxOACa_F?xmt=AQF0eggh_g1rWe_2oLNMNMS3HX5HOFtgArBTXEPQgxTDfYpqtOdLn-1jPDy8QL4rWqxXOr6f&slof=1)** > > JD Vance: "It was a legitimate law enforcement operation. We were going door to door to try to find criminal illegal aliens and deport them from the United States ... say a prayer for that agent ... he deserves a debt of gratitude." ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/176 "2026-01-12T15:26:18Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > “a legitimate law enforcement operation… going door to door trying to find criminal illegal aliens and deport them.” And Mr Couch Fucker Vance, did they? How many were deported? And when did the ICE-ICE get the authority to go door to door? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/177 "2026-01-12T16:23:46Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > And when did the ICE-ICE get the authority to go door to door? I think it was when they put the 4th amendment into the shredder. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/178 "2026-01-12T16:51:45Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > According to the Vice President, they were in the neighborhood to conduct “a legitimate law enforcement operation… going door to door trying to find criminal illegal aliens and deport them.” Without a warrant or probable cause. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/179 "2026-01-12T17:06:40Z")
How about Yakkity Sax? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2026, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/180 "2026-01-12T17:14:18Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Without a warrant or probable cause. With historical precedent in 1930s Germany. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019.md?page=10)