# Ice Shove **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 14, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756 "2014-01-14T03:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/1 "2014-01-14T03:11:21Z")
Number 2,946,277 under Things I Don’t Have to Worry About in Thailand is the [ice shove](http://boingboing.net/2014/01/13/when-ice-attacks.html). Criminy! I’ve never heard of these things before. Do these occur often? ---
**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/2 "2014-01-14T15:05:29Z")
Huh, I grew up in Minnesota and I’ve never heard of it. Granted I was in southern Minnesota, so not really lake country. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/3 "2014-01-14T15:09:09Z")
That’s not so unusual around here. Granted, it’s a lakefront phenomenon, but people with docks or boathouses are aware of such things. They’re not particularly common. We were more surprised by the icequakes a few weeks ago, after the ice storm. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/4 "2014-01-14T15:18:04Z")
After looking at the video, I’ll say that that is an unusually large one. It reminds me of a video I’d seen of the edge of a lava flow in Hawaii. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/5 "2014-01-14T15:25:37Z")
Some people call it an “ice heave”. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fqptbtwXUCs/hqdefault.jpg "'Ice Tsunami' Video, Photos: Wall of Ice Rises Out of Lake, Destroys Homes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqptbtwXUCs) It looks similar to glacier movement but wind instead of gravity is the driving force. We might be witnessing the first steps of the next ice age? ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/6 "2014-01-14T15:40:32Z")
Wow, never heard of that before, thanks for the link Siam Sam! ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/7 "2014-01-14T15:59:06Z")
Whoa. WTF! That was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/8 "2014-01-14T16:08:22Z")
There are [worse things](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0840304/) to [worry about](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1278340/) in the frozen wastelands. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/9 "2014-01-14T16:32:07Z")
Isn’t there a scene in Thornton Wilder’s _The Skin of Our Teeth_ where a guy’s complaining about the glacier getting closer every day? If not, there should be. That’s what that reminded me of. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/10 "2014-01-14T16:36:15Z")
What in the bloody hell?! Its like the Blob was a hunk of ice and started attacking! ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/11 "2014-01-14T19:42:36Z")
Interestingly, at the end of that video there was a link to another video showing footage of the 2004 tsunami, one of the 2,946,277things you _do_ have to worry about in Thailand! ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/12 "2014-01-14T19:43:59Z")
That’s amazing! Thanks for the cool video, have it saved in ‘bookmarks’ folder. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/13 "2014-01-14T20:24:33Z")
I haven’t decided if that looks like some a monster out of Doctor Who, or some kind of frost spell from World of Warcraft, but it makes me glad I live in California. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/14 "2014-01-15T02:43:34Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > We might be witnessing the first steps of the next ice age? I doubt it. I remember the harsh winters of the late 1970s, and that was a common notion then. Didn’t pan out. > [@Greg\_Charles](#): > > Interestingly, at the end of that video there was a link to another video showing footage of the 2004 tsunami, one of the 2,946,277things you _do_ have to worry about in Thailand! Not in Bangkok, heh! 🆒 (Although the earthquake that sparked the 2004 tsunami _did_ vibrate our windows here. ) ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/15 "2014-01-15T16:42:01Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Not in Bangkok, heh! 🆒 Well, you’ve got street protests though. Not too much of that in Minnesota. At least not since the lutefisk shortages of the early '70s. Minnesotans were understandably a bit on edge back then. Here in Southern California we’ve been ice shove and tsunami free for as long as I can remember, and have enough lutefisk to comfortably cover demand (i.e., none). But, yeah, there is that earthquake thing. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/16 "2014-01-15T17:10:20Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I doubt it. I remember the harsh winters of the late 1970s, and that was a common notion then. Didn’t pan out. But you don’t remember any ice shoves back then. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-shove/678756/17 "2014-01-15T17:35:29Z")
I grew up on Lake Winnebago in Wisconsin and ice shoves happened every year. They usually made some pretty cool icebergs that would hang around into the spring. Here’s a recent [news video](http://www.postcrescent.com/videonetwork/2289656472001)showing Winnebago ice shoves threatening homes (and featuring some great Wisconsin accents).