# I'd like Original Recipe, please

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 24, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742 "2011-01-24T04:35:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/1 "2011-01-24T04:35:20Z")

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_Leave it to Beaver_  
_Knight Rider_  
_What’s Happening_  
_Bionic Woman_  
_Hawaii 5-O_

These are all television shows that for various reasons(drugs, sex, blackmail, brain damage) someone went through the trouble to remake for our viewing pleasure. Outside of _Battlestar Galactica_, can you think of any remakes that turned out to be better than the original?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/2 "2011-01-24T04:47:15Z")

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Star Trek.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/3 "2011-01-24T04:52:55Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Star Trek.

Not a remake, but a continuation. Come to think of it, the new _Leave It To Beaver_ was also a continuation.

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**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/4 "2011-01-24T05:19:53Z")

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Does the latest Star Trdk movie count as a remake or a continuation? Technically, it is an alternate timeline of TOS.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/5 "2011-01-24T05:21:06Z")

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> [@WarmNPrickly](#):
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> Does the latest Star Trdk movie count as a remake or a continuation? Technically, it is an alternate timeline of TOS.

Technically, we’re talking about television shows.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/6 "2011-01-24T05:44:10Z")

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I was going to say that _What’s Happening Now?_ was a continuation of _What’s Happening?_, but by the end of the third season so many of the original cast members had left that I can grant you that it was basically a remake by that point.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/7 "2011-01-24T05:44:18Z")

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I haven’t seen it, but everything I’ve read about Hawaii 5-0 will take pains to point out it’s better than the original.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/8 "2011-01-24T05:52:41Z")

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The recent CG [Captain Scarlet](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQIiP30kodA) was much better than the original, though opinion is divided.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/9 "2011-01-24T05:55:52Z")

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Wait, are they remaking _Leave it to Beaver_?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/10 "2011-01-24T06:02:01Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> The recent CG [Captain Scarlet](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQIiP30kodA) was much better than the original, though opinion is divided.

It’s got my vote.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/11 "2011-01-24T06:26:28Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Wait, are they remaking _Leave it to Beaver_?

They did. In 1984. [The New Leave It To Beaver](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Leave_It_to_Beaver) ran on the Disney Channel, then on TBS for five years and had almost all of the original cast, save for Hugh Beaumont, who had passed away in 1982.

Although, as **Czarcasm** pointed out, it was more of a continuation than a remake.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/12 "2011-01-24T06:51:22Z")

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Is the new _V_ better than the old _V_?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/13 "2011-01-24T07:34:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Not a remake, but a continuation. Come to think of it, the new _Leave It To Beaver_ was also a continuation.

I think it’s a trivial distinction. Most of these shows have as much in common with the original version as me and Cleopatra. Aside from a titles and maybe a handful of character names they aren’t any more of a “remake” than Star Trek TNG is. With sit-coms and cop dramas there’s not really any larger storyline to “remake”.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/14 "2011-01-24T07:36:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is the new _V_ better than the old _V_?

Yes. The Old V was made in the 1980’s. It suffered from cheesiness and '80’s hair. The hair alone was bad enough.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/15 "2011-01-24T07:46:51Z")

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the old V had them eating mice though, that was worth all the cheese.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/16 "2011-01-24T07:56:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is the new _V_ better than the old _V_?

The new series is better than the old series (for the most part). The old miniseries is moderately better (storywise) than the current series. The new series has better effects. They have comparably good casting. The old one had less fridge moments.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/17 "2011-01-24T21:23:10Z")

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I’ve found two different remakes of _Dragnet_, two of _Tarzan_, one of _ADAM-12_-and all are poorly written and executed. Surely there must be a reason they keep trying this tactic, right?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/18 "2011-01-24T21:28:03Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Star Trek.

Are you differentiating _Next Generation_ and its two spin-offs from _TOS_, which is arguable? Or do you mean the 2009 movie (which I found quite dreadful) from any/some/all of its predecessors?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/19 "2011-01-24T21:33:17Z")

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Remade shows I agree with the OP on:

The New Addams Family  
The New Munsters

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/20 "2011-01-24T21:49:39Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Are you differentiating _Next Generation_ and its two spin-offs from _TOS_, which is arguable? Or do you mean the 2009 movie (which I found quite dreadful) from any/some/all of its predecessors?

None of the spin-offs are actually remakes of the original, and the new movie(besides not being television) takes place in an alternate universe and acknowledges the original.

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