# I'd like Original Recipe, please

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 24, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742 "2011-01-24T04:35:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/21 "2011-01-24T23:16:44Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> None of the spin-offs are actually remakes of the original, and the new movie(besides not being television) takes place in an alternate universe and acknowledges the original.

I wasn’t making an assertion. I was asking a question.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/22 "2011-01-24T23:33:24Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is the new _V_ better than the old _V_?

I’ll disagree with the two other answers and say that they are equal, taking into account the change in styles and technology. The stories and the acting aren’t any better, nor are they worse.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/23 "2011-01-25T00:15:13Z")

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So the new Knight Rider is worse than the old Knight Rider? Is that even possible?

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/24 "2011-01-25T00:23:59Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Not a remake, but a continuation. Come to think of it, the new _Leave It To Beaver_ was also a continuation.

As already pointed out so was What’s Happening Now, and not as already pointed out so was the recent version of Knight Rider (which was something like the 3rd revival of the franchise). The hero of the new version was the son of David Hasslehoff’s original Michael Knight, and he had a cheezy walkon cameo in the pilot movie for the new version.

Leave It To Beaver did get an actual remake, however, it was a movie, not a TV show.

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So the new Knight Rider is worse than the old Knight Rider? Is that even possible?  
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Magical nanotechnology, so that KITT can turn into any sort of car or truck you want, so long as the car or truck is a Ford.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/25 "2011-01-25T00:30:51Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> The recent CG [Captain Scarlet](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQIiP30kodA) was much better than the original, though opinion is divided.

The writing and acting certainly seem to be improved…but the animation. Yeesh. The puppets moved more naturally… This was made in 2005! It looks like a video game from about the same time period…

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/26 "2011-01-25T02:41:12Z")

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I’ll get flak for this, but I’ll say the 80’s **[The New Twilight Zone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_(1985_TV_series))** was better than the original. It did some of the best dramatizations of established SF short stories, and was far more emotionally involving (and did not depend on gratuitous “twist” plots).

You had the work of writers like Harlan Ellision, Robert Silverberg, Rockne S. O’Bannon (his first TV script), Joe Haldeman, George R. R. Martin, Greg Bear, Ray Bradbury, J. Michael Straczynski, Theodore Sturgeon, Roger Zelazny, David Gerrold, and Arthur C. Clarke, among others. Wes Craven, Peter Medak, Martha Coolidge, Joe Dante, John Milius, and Robert Downey (Sr.) directed episodes. Actors appearing included Bruce Willis, Richard Mulligan, Elliot Gould, Danny Kaye, Robert Klein, Annie Potts, James Whitmore, Jr., Martin Landau, Robert Morse, Fritz Weaver, Helen Mirren, Shelly Duval, Richard Libertini, and George Wendt. They dramatized classic stories like “The Star,” “The Cold Equations,” “Shatterday,” “To See the Invisible Man,” “Button, Button” (the Richard Matheson one which was recently remade into a terrible movie), and “Yesterday was Monday.”

Just a great show.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/27 "2011-01-25T04:39:19Z")

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If you count The New Adventures of Wonder Woman from 1975 as a remake of the Wonder Woman TV movie of 1974, the inclusion of Lynda Carter alone makes it superior.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/28 "2011-01-25T07:37:16Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I haven’t seen it, but everything I’ve read about Hawaii 5-0 will take pains to point out it’s better than the original.

I have a new theory : the remake will be better than the original, as long as Grace Park is in it. (Wasn’t she also on the Degrassi Junior/High remake?)

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/29 "2011-01-25T08:15:04Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Are you differentiating _Next Generation_ and its two spin-offs from _TOS_, which is arguable? Or do you mean the 2009 movie (which I found quite dreadful) from any/some/all of its predecessors?

I was referring to TNG being a remake of TOS. I’d say TNG was a loose remake of TOS, but DS9 and Voyager are Spin-offs. Enterprise is a remake of TOS and TNG.

All fine lines of distinction I’m sure, but as noted most shows with any kind of ongoing plot and storyline get “remade” in a way that continues the original storyline.

If you want to limit the remakes to shows that use identical characters and are a complete reboot that pretends the original never existed then you’re dealing with a much shorter list of shows that have vanishing little in common aside from title.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/30 "2011-01-25T08:39:23Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I haven’t seen it, but everything I’ve read about Hawaii 5-0 will take pains to point out it’s better than the original.

I’ve only caught a few minutes of the remake, but the theme song is definitely a step or two below the original. Of course, it would have been damn hard to top, or even match, the original.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/31 "2011-01-25T11:49:46Z")

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> So the new Knight Rider is worse than the old Knight Rider? Is that even possible?

The old car was cooler.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/32 "2011-01-26T02:11:47Z")

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My husband likes the remake of _La Femme Nikita_ (now called just plain _Nikita_) better than the original TV series. I disagree. I suspect that he likes the new one better because he prefers brunettes to blondes.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-original-recipe-please/568742/33 "2011-01-26T06:42:10Z")

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> [@pinkfreud](#):
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> My husband likes the remake of _La Femme Nikita_ (now called just plain _Nikita_) better than the original TV series. I disagree. I suspect that he likes the new one better because he prefers brunettes to blondes.

I don’t remember the original tv series. But I felt that the US version of the foreign film was equally meritorious to it.

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