# I'd like to kill my roommate, but I'm afraid just doing it once wouldn't be enough

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**Created:** [November 11, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016 "2007-11-11T14:26:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/301 "2007-11-16T19:09:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone]

Dude, where do you _live_? :eek:  
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It just makes sense, if the police can have \*\*Neutron Star \*\*let them in, it saves a whole lot of trouble with breaking down doors etc.

I may have missed this up-thread but does your friend, the owner, know all this is happening? I saw that he’d already been making plans to evict Dave anyway.

And I’m _still_ shaking my head over Dave’s apparent belief that you WOULDN’T NOTICE hundreds of dollars missing from your bank account. I mean, if you were rich enough to have that sort of cash go missing and not realize it, you sure as hell wouldn’t be sharing a house with him! Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/302 "2007-11-16T19:15:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Zappa]  
And I’m _still_ shaking my head over Dave’s apparent belief that you WOULDN’T NOTICE hundreds of dollars missing from your bank account. I mean, if you were rich enough to have that sort of cash go missing and not realize it, you sure as hell wouldn’t be sharing a house with him! Sheesh.  
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That’s the least of it. If Dave believed he had that kind of money, why didn’t he steal more? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/303 "2007-11-16T19:17:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Zappa]  
It just makes sense, if the police can have \*\*Neutron Star \*\*let them in, it saves a whole lot of trouble with breaking down doors etc.  
[/QUOTE]  
😕

Oh, oops. I cut out the wrong part of the quote. I menat to respond to:

> [@neutron](#):
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> I mean, I’ve seen one guy I know go down for a double murder, and another (just a month ago) get arrested for raping and impregnating his fucking sister. Compared to that, forgery seems like small potatoes.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/304 "2007-11-16T19:27:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone]  
😕

Oh, oops. I cut out the wrong part of the quote. I menat to respond to:  
[/QUOTE]

Ah - your comment makes more sense now! I thought you were bemused by the police’s courtesy in working with NS’s schedule and not waking him up in order to make the arrest.

Of course, that may be a factor too :). Harrisburg _is_ a pretty nice and courteous area, mostly (I grew up there) though fortunately I’ve never had any personal encounters with the police department.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/305 "2007-11-16T19:43:43Z")

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One guy raped his fucking sister? Is that anything like a kissing cousin?

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/306 "2007-11-16T21:59:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Sapo]  
That’s the least of it. If Dave believed he had that kind of money, why didn’t he steal more? 🙂  
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Similar to my question.

It’s been about a week now, hasn’t he tried to use any more of them? He doesn’t seem bright enough to have “Quit while he was ahead”

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/307 "2007-11-16T22:38:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone]  
😕

Oh, oops. I cut out the wrong part of the quote. I meant to respond to:  
[/QUOTE]

Well, the killer was from when I lived in Louisiana. He was a coke dealer (I wasn’t a customer; he just hung out with us sometimes and smoked pot) who suspected two people of being narcs. Picked them up from a bar promising some coke. Long story short, they had to identify them by their dental records. Turns out they weren’t narcs, but the person that this asshole bragged about it to the next day was. He’s serving life in Angola now.

And the sister rapist. Eww. I don’t know what to make of that. I hung out with the guy a bunch of times, and one day he just gets picked up from work and we find out that he raped his underage sister and she has a baby by him. Apparently it took her a while to report the crime. She doesn’t want to give the baby up, either. Ugh. I thought I was jaded before that. I was wrong. I hope they lock that creep up and throw away the key.

> [@Mama Zappa](#):
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> I may have missed this up-thread but does your friend, the owner, know all this is happening? I saw that he’d already been making plans to evict Dave anyway.

Oh yeah; he was one of the first people I told.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/308 "2007-11-16T22:47:13Z")

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> [@neutron star](#):
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> He’s serving life in Angola now.

Woah! Either Angola is the name of a city or prison in Louisiana, or I smell another great story here.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/309 "2007-11-16T23:17:57Z")

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[QUOTE=fetus]  
Woah! Either Angola is the name of a city or prison in Louisiana, or I smell another great story here.  
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[Yup.](http://www.doc.louisiana.gov/lsp/history.htm)

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/310 "2007-11-16T23:36:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Projammer]  
Similar to my question.

It’s been about a week now, hasn’t he tried to use any more of them? He doesn’t seem bright enough to have “Quit while he was ahead”  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe he cannot remember where he put them.

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**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/311 "2007-11-17T13:22:09Z")

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Hey **Neutron Star** , you home yet? Any sign of the cops?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/312 "2007-11-17T13:24:47Z")

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They weren’t kidding when they say the wheels of justice grind slowly.

(No, I don’t know who “they” are.)

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**Author:** ![SomeUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@SomeUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SomeUserName)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/313 "2007-11-17T13:27:59Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
They weren’t kidding when they say the wheels of justice grind slowly.

(No, I don’t know who “they” are.)  
[/QUOTE]

No shit. I know I have been following this thread and waiting for this ass to get arrested. I can’t imagine how **neutron star** has been able to contain himself.

I know I would have blew my top by now.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/314 "2007-11-17T13:31:05Z")

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**neutron** , would it be feasible for you to go to the police station in person? Maybe if you can look someone in the eye, it might be harder for them to delay the arrest (unless there’s a legitimate reason, like they’re waiting on fingerprint analysis or something.)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/315 "2007-11-17T16:43:10Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
They weren’t kidding when they say the wheels of justice grind slowly.

(No, I don’t know who “they” are.)  
[/QUOTE]  
“They” are Sextus Empiricus, George Herbert, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, and George Bernard Shaw, all of whom had some variation on “the mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.” But even Sextus Empiricus was quoting an anonymous someone (or tradition), and it has become proverbial.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/316 "2007-11-17T18:12:55Z")

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Trust a Doper to know who They are. 😃

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**Author:** ![kingrthr3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ad7895/32.png) [@kingrthr3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingrthr3)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/317 "2007-11-17T18:17:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Sean Factotum]  
Is there such a thing as “citizen’s arrest”? I thought at best it’s just someone physically detaining an individual until the police show up, if not just a plot device for television.  
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Most jurisdictions in the United States allow a citizen’s arrest when a felony or “public offense” is committed.

From [Citizens' Arrest](http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm)

> [@](#):
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> A random sampling of the various states as well as the District of Columbia indicates that a citizen’s arrest is valid when a public offense was committed in the presence of the arresting private citizen or when the arresting private citizen has a reasonable belief that the suspect has committed a felony, whether or not in the presence of the arresting citizen.
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> In the most crime ridden spot in the country, our nation’s capitol, District of Columbia Law 23- 582(b) reads as follows:
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> (b) A private person may arrest another -
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> (1) who he has probable cause to believe is committing in his presence -
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> (A) a felony, or
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> (B) an offense enumerated in section 23-581 (a)(2); or
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> (2) in aid of a law enforcement officer or special policeman, or other person authorized by law to make an arrest.
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> (c) Any person making an arrest pursuant to this section shall deliver the person arrested to a law enforcement officer without unreasonable delay. (July 29, 1970, 84 Stat. 630, Pub. L. 91-358, Title II, § 210(a); 1973 Ed., § 23-582; Apr. 30, 1988, D.C. Law 7-104, § 7(e), 35 DCR 147.)

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/318 "2007-11-17T19:01:48Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
**neutron** , would it be feasible for you to go to the police station in person? Maybe if you can look someone in the eye, it might be harder for them to delay the arrest (unless there’s a legitimate reason, like they’re waiting on fingerprint analysis or something.)  
[/QUOTE]  
at this point, it is likel that the prosecutor’s office would be involved. IME, cop witnesses a bank robbery, arrests then/there. cop stops you drunk driving, arrest right then. cop investigates crime, finds evidence to support arrest, gives same to prosecutor, either they call for a grand jury or they issue a warrant.

I know this was a big deal to the OP, and is a criminal matter, but I rather doubt that it’s the biggest crime occuring in that jurisdiction. or, of course, they may be investigating him for additional charges.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/319 "2007-11-17T19:21:02Z")

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:: impatient :: Okay, this is taking too long. Can we just kill him as per the thread title?  
What?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/320 "2007-11-17T19:41:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone]  
:: impatient :: Okay, this is taking too long. Can we just kill him as per the thread title?

What?  
[/QUOTE]  
Only once; and only if it was 1962.

As impatient and on-the-edge-of-our-seats as we are, imagine how **neutron star** must feel.

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