# I'd like to kill my roommate, but I'm afraid just doing it once wouldn't be enough

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016 "2007-11-11T14:26:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Polymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@Polymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polymer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/161 "2007-11-13T16:38:18Z")

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Maastricht, those are all excellent ideas. But Neutron really needs to consult with his county magistrate’s office before changing the locks or moving Dave’s things. As crappy as it is, the truth is that doing any of those may in fact be illegal and will make a bad situation even worse.

Neutron, is there any way you can go down to the county magistrate’s office in person and talk to them? I would strongly recommend it.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/162 "2007-11-13T16:44:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Polymer]  
Maastricht, those are all excellent ideas. But Neutron really needs to consult with his county magistrate’s office before changing the locks or moving Dave’s things. As crappy as it is, the truth is that doing any of those may in fact be illegal and will make a bad situation even worse.

Neutron, is there any way you can go down to the county magistrate’s office in person and talk to them? I would strongly recommend it.  
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Seems sensible to me. A review of the legalities of the situation in your area would definitely be helpful.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/163 "2007-11-13T16:45:27Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
. . . as well as knowning he was not going to either shit the bed as he didn’t have diarrhea . . .  
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Honestly I couldn’t care less if you drugged your boyfriend and unless you’re typing from behind bars neither should the rest of us.

For my part it was a question of intent. I’ve had food poisoning a few times and believe me, you can shit your pants by blinking too hard. It’s one thing to “run out of mercy,” but making a fellow crap himself is just plain mean.

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**Author:** ![Polymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@Polymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polymer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/164 "2007-11-13T16:53:47Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
This is a forum of adults. You are being called out for the real consequences of your actions and for advocating activities which are illegal and dangerous. You do not seem to recognize the gravity of your suggestions and actions. Wise up.  
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I’m sorry if this continues the “hijack” here, but I just feel compelled to share just why this was SO dangerous. The prolonged vomiting and diarrhea that accompanies food poisoning can easily cause severe electrolyte imbalances which can bring on stroke, heart attack and other serious complications\*. Administering a pharmaceutical sledgehammer in the form of a powerful CNS depressant to the neurological system of a person in this state is, frankly, playing Russian roulette with their life.

My god…

- This is what people with anorexia and/or bulimia usually actually die of, not starvation.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/165 "2007-11-13T16:57:26Z")

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[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso]  
…making a fellow crap himself is just plain mean.  
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But potentially quite funny! 😃

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/166 "2007-11-13T17:12:02Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
**lobstermobster** , from our Rules:

This is a warning. Do not do this again.

Wise up and quit trolling or you will lose your posting privileges here.  
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oh sweet heavens, put away the Banning Wand. I try not to be the kind of bore that sweats the mods about their job, but I am begging on my knees, please don’t ban another freakin’ poster of interest for at least, oh let’s say…a month!

I don’t care how annoying they are. I am begging for mercy on her behalf.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/167 "2007-11-13T17:14:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
God, you’re a Cretin.  
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I thought you did believe in God. ?! Now you are calling him names?

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> > My sincerest apologies to the afflicted.
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> Rejected.

None intended. Not to you. I mean you are clearly afflicted, but not by my post.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/168 "2007-11-13T17:15:30Z")

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[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso]  
For my part it was a question of intent. I’ve had food poisoning a few times and believe me, you can shit your pants by blinking too hard. It’s one thing to “run out of mercy,” but making a fellow crap himself is just plain mean.  
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Do you think her intent was to make him shit the bed? I doubt it. I think it was an attempt at mercy, hoping he could sleep through the nausea. Not the wisest course of action, since conceivably he could choke on his own vomit, but I think it’s more likely stupidity than malice in this case. And definitely not trolling.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/169 "2007-11-13T17:23:14Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
**lobstermobster** , from our Rules:

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> You agree not to post material that in our opinion fosters or promotes activity that is illegal in the U.S.

This is a warning. Do not do this again.

Wise up and quit trolling or you will lose your posting privileges here.  
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Besides the “in our opinion” part, what exactly did lobstermobster to foster or promote an illegal activity? She confesed to having done something illegal, but hardly fostered or promoted it. Could you please point out the specific offending quote?

(and by the backlash she got, it was probably more of a PSA that helped others know that poisoning your partners is a bit of a social no-no)

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/170 "2007-11-13T17:27:42Z")

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I guess this part:

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> e hadn’t taken any before, it’s my prescription. I’m the gatekeeper. (snip) I mean these are bad examples with prescription/illegal drugs. Basically I’m just saying I support your god given right to dose someone who steals all your money with exlax.

Especially the last line, which _is_ kind of fostering and promoting. I’m not saying anything on either side re **fluiddruid** or **lobstermobster** , I’m just pointing out I can kind of see it.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/171 "2007-11-13T17:28:34Z")

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She admitted that the Ambien was hers, not her boyfriend, so gave her prescription to someone else without their knowledge.

**neutron** , any news? The bank is open, the police should be ready to go, right?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/172 "2007-11-13T17:30:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Sapo]  
Besides the “in our opinion” part, what exactly did lobstermobster to foster or promote an illegal activity? She confesed to having done something illegal, but hardly fostered or promoted it. Could you please point out the specific offending quote?  
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This, probably:  
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> [@lobstermobster](#):
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> Basically I’m just saying I support your god given right to dose someone who steals all your money with exlax.

]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9169665&postcount=105](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9169665&postcount=105))

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/173 "2007-11-13T17:33:05Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
**neutron** , any news? The bank is open, the police should be ready to go, right?  
[/QUOTE]  
I admit curiosity as well.

But I’m sure that (a) the police will take their sweet time getting to it, and (b) it may be a while afterwards before neutron has a chance to update us.

And when he _does_ come back to the SDMB, I can only hope the unholy hijacking that has occurred in this thread doesn’t scare him off.

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**Author:** ![Polymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@Polymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polymer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/174 "2007-11-13T17:33:23Z")

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> “god given right to dose someone”

This is scary on so many levels…

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/175 "2007-11-13T17:35:15Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]

**neutron** , any news? The bank is open, the police should be ready to go, right?  
[/QUOTE]

Ditto, please. Waiting for updates. Hope everything’s going OK.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/176 "2007-11-13T17:35:20Z")

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Hey guys? Any chance you could start a “Logistics and/or legality of poisoning someone” thread.

And maybe start a “ **Poster A** Vs. **Poster B** ” celebrity deathmatch thread? - where people with obvious grudges toward each other can virtually duke it out?

I keep checking back here to see how the saga ends, I keep having to read shit that just doesn’t matter with regard to the OP.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/177 "2007-11-13T17:44:36Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]

If not, I don’t know how things will play out. Thing is, neither of us is on any kind of lease or anything like that. Nobody ever signed a thing.  
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Landlord-Tenant Laws still apply. [Here is a link](http://www.tenant.net/Other_Areas/Penn/harris/pa-part5.html) to a cite containing the Landlord-Tenant Law as it applies in Harrisburg, PA, and the eviction procedure, specifically.

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> **The Eviction Notice** - The landlord must give the tenant written notice of the reason for the eviction and the date that the landlord wants the tenant to leave. . . The eviction notice must be personally delivered to the tenant or posted on the dwelling. An eviction notice, sent by mail is probably not enforceable. . . **If the tenant is behind in the rent and has an oral lease with the landlord** , the landlord needs to give only fifteen (15) days notice between April 1st and September 1st, but thirty (30) days notice between September 1st and April 1st. I[f] the tenant is not out of the property by the end of the eviction notice, the landlord must follow the procedure through the District Justice’s office as set forth in paragraphs 2, 3 and 4 below.

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> Also, just for the hell of it, does anyone know what happens to the possessions of someone who is arrested, but doesn’t have any relatives within 3,000 miles of his stuff? I could get some fraction of the money he’ll never pay me back that way, but I’m guessing that’s not kosher. It _should_ be, but oh well.

From that same site:

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> If the Constable has to forcibly evict the tenant, and the tenant has not arranged for a place for his/her furniture and belongings, the Sheriff or Constable can store the furniture and belongings at a storage company at the tenant’s expense. A tenant must pay any storage bill before getting his/her furniture and belongings back. If the tenant does not pay the storage bill or make arrangements regarding the furniture and belongings, they may be sold by the storage company to pay the storage bill. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_  
> **THE LANDLORD MAY NOT HOLD THE TENANT’S FURNITURE O[R] PERSONAL BELONGINGS OR SELL THEM TO PAY BACK RENT.**
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If he won’t go through the proper legal steps to evict this guy, my personal recommendation – friend or no friend – would be to give notice and move out. You and your possessions will never be safe there if this guy is allowed to stay or move back in. Good luck!

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/178 "2007-11-13T17:46:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons]  
I admit curiosity as well.

But I’m sure that (a) the police will take their sweet time getting to it, and (b) it may be a while afterwards before neutron has a chance to update us.

And when he _does_ come back to the SDMB, I can only hope the unholy hijacking that has occurred in this thread doesn’t scare him off.  
[/QUOTE]  
It was also stated it might take until Tuesday or Wednesday. We don’t know how soon the bank’s loss prevention department will get on top of this issue.

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**Author:** ![forty\_two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/forty_two/32/7279_2.png) [@forty\_two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/forty_two)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/179 "2007-11-13T17:47:43Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]

This is a forum of adults. You are being called out for the real consequences of your actions and for advocating activities which are illegal and dangerous. You do not seem to recognize the gravity of your suggestions and actions. Wise up.  
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Wow, who over starched your undies? You make it sound like she robbed bank while snortin meth and anal rapping puppies with a chin strap on.

Not that I advocating snorting meth while anal raping puppies with a shin strap on and bank robbing mind you.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-like-to-kill-my-roommate-but-im-afraid-just-doing-it-once-wouldnt-be-enough/426016/180 "2007-11-13T17:48:37Z")

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[QUOTE=brewha]  
Hey guys? Any chance you could start a “Logistics and/or legality of poisoning someone” thread.

And maybe start a “ **Poster A** Vs. **Poster B** ” celebrity deathmatch thread? - where people with obvious grudges toward each other can virtually duke it out?

I keep checking back here to see how the saga ends, I keep having to read shit that just doesn’t matter with regard to the OP.  
[/QUOTE]

Hear, hear.

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