# "I'd rather have been BEATEN than see you spit in God's face." REALLY?? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 5, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319 "2010-08-05T20:15:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![wipetheclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@wipetheclock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wipetheclock)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319/81 "2010-08-07T17:23:34Z")
> [@Cyningablod](#): > > I a) despise foolishness when people display it, and try to correct it whenever possible; and b) really DON’T want her to hurt unnecessarily. To me, this seems to be the heart of the matter. These two desires are completely incompatible in a situation such as this. You will not talk your mother out of her deeply held religious beliefs. Telling her how foolish she is (even if it’s true) and the length to which you hold disdain for her beliefs will only cause her a great deal of pain. You have to choose. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319/82 "2010-08-07T17:29:01Z")
I told my brother this past year that I don’t consider myself Christian anymore. Christmas should be really interesting this year. I mean, my mom just recently (mostly) got over the gay thing. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319/83 "2010-08-07T18:48:18Z")
The thing is, it’s _so hard_ to just keep your mouth shut, because your parents certainly don’t and it’s so damned disrespectful. I avoid the subject, but sometimes it comes to a head. ---
**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319/84 "2010-08-07T23:41:49Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > > [@Cyningablod](#): > > > > And Good Og, is it ever cloying and infuriating! > > > [@Cyningablod](#): > > > > Nope. I don’t believe in suffering for others’ delusions. I do wish–and have ‘til now often attempted to _rectify_–others’ delusions, but I refuse to carry any personal emotional burden for them. > > But you are suffering. You’ve been carrying these emotional burdens for quite some time, enraging you to the point of infuriation. > > You are pitting your own mother for fuck’s sake. > > You are just as desirous in changing her as she is changing you. You are as emotionally invested as she is in this crisis. The only difference is that she’s telling you her pain in the futile hope that you’d change. She doesn’t want to see you in hell she believes you are heading into. You are simply bitching about your mother behind her back, blaming her for your pain and looking for support from the enablers here. > > You are such a wuss. No, you’re just misunderstanding my position. I am _annoyed_ by my mother’s speech and behavior. Greatly. But that’s it. I do NOT carry any personal _burden_ for her beliefs or feelings, the way she is burdened for my unbelief (ie, her displaying guilt, remorse, heartache, etc, over it). If you can’t see the difference between her feelings and those that I express, especially vis-a-vis the differences in rhetoric and manipulative language, I don’t hold out much hope that you can follow the nuances of this topic. Thanks for chiming in, though. It’s good to practice arguing with the grown-ups. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319/85 "2010-08-08T20:12:49Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > I told my brother this past year that I don’t consider myself Christian anymore. Christmas should be really interesting this year. I mean, my mom just recently (mostly) got over the gay thing. See, I knew anyone could just “get over the gay thing” [/kidding!] But, no jokes, Cyningablod, don’t forget your backup method for coping with Mom… bite your tongue and think\*\* “I have GOT to start a Pit Thread about this!”\*\* We be here fo’ ya. . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-rather-have-been-beaten-than-see-you-spit-in-gods-face-really/549319.md?page=4)