# ID the titless wonder **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 20, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439 "2006-06-20T15:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/1 "2006-06-20T15:36:33Z")
In his memoir I’D HATE MYSELF IN THE MORNING, screenwriter Ring Lardner jr mentions a conversation he had with movie producer Martin Ransohoff about a biopic of Jean Harlow (that was never made?) in which a woman was being cast to play Harlow despite her physical drawbacks: " ‘And guess who they’re casting as Harlow?’ he exclaimed, naming a popular actress of the sixties whom he described, with evident disgust, as '‘the titless wonder’." This conversation took place in the summer of 1964, so my question is: which actress was widely enough known at that point as small-breasted? My first thought was “Twiggy” but I think she first became famous a few years later. Jane Fonda, maybe? Seems a bit early for Jane as well. Your guess? ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/2 "2006-06-20T15:42:43Z")
Peggy Lipton? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/3 "2006-06-20T15:52:34Z")
My mom used to call me the titless wonder. When I saw the thread title, I thought I was being outed! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/4 "2006-06-20T15:53:01Z")
[QUOTE=astro] Peggy Lipton? [/QUOTE] She’d be later than '64 also –_Mod Squad_ didn’t go on the air till '68. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/5 "2006-06-20T15:55:25Z")
The movie [Harlow](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059252/) was released in 1965 with Carol Baker as Jean Harlow. I wouldn’t describe Baker as “titless” but there’s no accounting for taste. Some of the other actresses reportedly considered for the lead were Jayne Mansfield and Stella Stevens. Compared to them, I suppose you could consider Carol Baker to be relatively flat-chested. As for a famous actress of the early 60s who would be considered flat-chested, I think most people would agree on Audrey Hepburn. ---
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/6 "2006-06-20T17:01:00Z")
[QUOTE=kunilou] The movie [Harlow](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059252/) was released in 1965 with Carol Baker as Jean Harlow. I wouldn’t describe Baker as “titless” but there’s no accounting for taste. Some of the other actresses reportedly considered for the lead were Jayne Mansfield and Stella Stevens. Compared to them, I suppose you could consider Carol Baker to be relatively flat-chested. As for a famous actress of the early 60s who would be considered flat-chested, I think most people would agree on Audrey Hepburn. [/QUOTE] A. Hepburn is the first one that came to my mind. Small chested, but in no way could you consider her less than stunning. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/7 "2006-06-20T17:20:34Z")
Ironically, Harlow herself [wasn’t](http://tinyurl.com/nf2ho) [particuarly](http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Jean_Harlow_1934.jpg) [well-endowed](http://usuario.tiscali.es/actores/jh3.jpg). Men in the 30s were more interested in legs than breasts. ---
**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/8 "2006-06-20T18:41:36Z")
[QUOTE=ddgryphon] A. Hepburn is the first one that came to my mind. Small chested, but in no way could you consider her less than stunning. [/QUOTE] Well I do. I think she’s way less than ‘stunning’. I think she looks like a distended freak, and I always have. Now if you want [stunning…](http://www.kimcm.dk/4fun/hotornot/Images/JacquelineBisset.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/9 "2006-06-20T20:04:18Z")
A list of unbelievably gorgeous women who are A-cup or smaller: Keira Knightly Angie Harmon Vanity Charlize Theron Most Japanese supermodels ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/10 "2006-06-20T20:26:16Z")
I don’t think many of them were around in '64, though. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/11 "2006-06-20T20:29:18Z")
Not that it addresss the OP, but the first name that came to my mind when seeing the thread title was Ann Jillian. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/12 "2006-06-20T20:36:25Z")
Two biopics about Jean Harlow, both titled _Harlow_, were released in 1965. The big-studio one starred Carroll Baker (35B-24-35), the low-budget one starred Carol Lynley. ---
**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/13 "2006-06-20T20:43:59Z")
Carroll Baker is a bit titless: [http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1264/Mptv/1264/0988\_0810.jpg?path=pgallery&path\_key=Baker,%20Carroll](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1264/Mptv/1264/0988_0810.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Baker,%20Carroll) Pretty darn cute though. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/14 "2006-06-20T20:46:20Z")
[QUOTE=Dung Beetle] My mom used to call me the titless wonder. When I saw the thread title, I thought I was being outed! [/QUOTE] :eek: No, I’m not shocked, I’m just ogling. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/15 "2006-06-20T20:52:28Z")
I thought of Shirley McLane myself. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/16 "2006-06-20T22:11:20Z")
[QUOTE=BMalion] I thought of Shirley McLane myself. [/QUOTE] No, she would be the witless wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/17 "2006-06-20T23:13:13Z")
[QUOTE=cmkeller] Not that it addresss the OP, but the first name that came to my mind when seeing the thread title was Ann Jillian. [/QUOTE] That’s cold man. Funny, but cold. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/18 "2006-06-21T00:15:07Z")
> [@](#): > > A. Hepburn is the first one that came to my mind. Small chested, but in no way could you consider her less than stunning. Ironically, who was cast to play Hepburn in her film bio? Jennifer Love Hewitt ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/19 "2006-06-21T01:30:24Z")
[QUOTE=Bumbazine] That’s cold man. [/QUOTE] I read that and I thought: “Dang. The only reason he’s going to get away with it is nobody else is going to get it.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439/20 "2006-06-21T01:37:52Z")
[QUOTE=Walloon] Two biopics about Jean Harlow, both titled _Harlow_, were released in 1965. The big-studio one starred Carroll Baker (35B-24-35), the low-budget one starred Carol Lynley. [/QUOTE] Lynley wasn’t all that endowed, either. Cute, though. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-the-titless-wonder/361439.md?page=2)