# ID this Flying Insect

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 25, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360 "2003-06-25T21:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/1 "2003-06-25T21:03:37Z")

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OK I have a caller with a bug ID question… Grammy has killed this bug in Montgomery Alabama and wants to know what it is.

Flying Insect with large stinger  
Body - Smooth, over 1 in long, black with yellowish stripes, BIG stinger  
Wings - reddish  
Legs - red  
Head - reddish

Suggestions??

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/2 "2003-06-25T21:09:28Z")

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[Sabre Wasp](http://www.offwell.free-online.co.uk/woodland_manage/ichneum.htm)?

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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/3 "2003-06-25T21:10:51Z")

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Oh yeah, and it’s “about as big around as your pinkie finger”.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/4 "2003-06-25T21:17:11Z")

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Sounds like some kind of hornet or solitary wasp. The ‘stinger’ might just be an ovipositor though.

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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/5 "2003-06-25T21:18:03Z")

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Nope - she said it looked almost like a hornet - but bigger.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/6 "2003-06-25T21:56:13Z")

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Possibly a **Cicada Killer** - They’re big and often have a brownish-red cast to them.

Here’s a photo: [http://ppdl.org/dd/images/cicadakiller\_wasp-grass.jpeg](http://ppdl.org/dd/images/cicadakiller_wasp-grass.jpeg)

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/7 "2003-06-25T21:56:28Z")

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OOooo Think I found it - [European Hornet](http://www.forestryimages.org/images/768x512/0001024.jpg)

I just wonder with the name “European”, should it be in Alabama?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/8 "2003-06-25T22:00:11Z")

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Better shot of a European Hornet ( that does look closer ):

[http://www.muenster.org/hornissenschutz/grbilder/horniseite.htm](http://www.muenster.org/hornissenschutz/grbilder/horniseite.htm)

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/9 "2003-06-25T22:01:52Z")

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Oh and it was introduced into the U.S. in 1840 and has since naturalized.

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/id-this-flying-insect/184360/10 "2003-06-25T22:24:44Z")

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Sorry, I should have specified European Hornet - I keep forgetting that many non-European species are smaller than ordinary wasps (yellowjackets) and then nobody knows what I’m talking about.
