# Idaho Company Makes Pork-Infused Bullets For Jihadists...

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**Created:** [June 25, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890 "2013-06-25T17:17:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/21 "2013-06-25T22:22:55Z")

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Wouldn’t it make more sense to market pig leather outfits to wear on on the plane, as protection against Islamic terrorists? None would dare board such an unclean aircraft.

Hey, now there’s a marketing idea…

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/22 "2013-06-25T22:36:09Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Hardly. Anyone who buys these bullets is unlikely to use them against any Muslims except _possibly_ some random guy whose “crime” is having an “Muslim sounding” name.

Or a “Muslim looking” attire, like the [Sikh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting).

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/23 "2013-06-25T22:52:47Z")

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This statement from their “about us” portion of their website still elicits laughter from me: “Our Porcine Coating (Pattern Pending) is infused with the highest quality pork product made right here in America. Jihawg Ammo is produced in the great state of Idaho.”

Maybe the next logical step in the evolution of anti-radical Muslim ammunition is bullets made exclusively from hardened or petrified bacon.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/24 "2013-06-25T22:58:23Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Or a “Muslim looking” attire, like the [Sikh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting).

I also recall some Coptic Christians being harassed for “looking Muslim” in New York a while back.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/25 "2013-06-25T23:04:15Z")

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Is this just an extension of Bacon Envelopes, Bacon Salt, and Bacon Lube? What if someone shoots a bunch of people, and most are immune because they’re good Christians, but then you look at some of the dead and they died because they’re pork-fearing Jews? So then you are the monster like in _I am Legend_! Although, I’m not sure if that would bother people from Northern Idaho…

Well, they’re prices are certainly overinflated for the times. $32 .308 that I can lick? No thanks. I’d rather stick with a brand I’ve used and trust. But they’re in stock, so either not selling or some amount of BS.

Also, the mosque isn’t at ground zero, dipshits. Two blocks away, I think.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/26 "2013-06-25T23:53:06Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Hardly. Anyone who buys these bullets is unlikely to use them against any Muslims except _possibly_ some random guy whose “crime” is having an “Muslim sounding” name.

Fine. We’re talking about assholes who make pork bullets that they think they are going to use against the kind of assholes who believe that they get 72 virgins in exchange for blowing up a hotel.

No matter how you spin it, those assholes in question are still part of the topic of this thread.

That said, I’d need a citation that extremist Islam is compatible with the idea of involuntary sins. Killing innocents already doesn’t matter, so why should it matter if they spray you with pork? They already rationalize away some scriptures, so why not others?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/27 "2013-06-25T23:55:24Z")

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Wouldn’t carving a cross in the bullet do the same thing, and a lot cheaper?

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/28 "2013-06-26T00:30:57Z")

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I have a vague memory of a story about lard packets being placed on busses in Israel. I don’t remember if this was from The Onion though.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/29 "2013-06-26T00:38:03Z")

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See [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=42412&) by **curwin** , Oct. 16, 2000, and especially Post #5:

> [@pig covered bullets](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pig-covered-bullets/37100/5):
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> There was a similar item in News of the Weird a few years back – some Israeli came up with the idea of using hollow bullets with a bit of pork inside. When fired into a Palestinian (or anyone else, for that matter), the bullet would likely break up, placing the pork inside the victim’s body. According to the article, many Muslims believe that any contact with pigs will “destroy their souls”, so the pig round would in effect kill its victim twice.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/30 "2013-06-26T01:19:27Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > There was a similar item in News of the Weird a few years back – some Israeli came up with the idea of using hollow bullets with a bit of pork inside. When fired into a Palestinian (or anyone else, for that matter), the bullet would likely break up, placing the pork inside the victim’s body. According to the article, many Muslims believe that any contact with pigs will “destroy their souls”, so the pig round would in effect kill its victim twice.

You’d think they’d learn; creating soulless abominations never goes well. That’s just _asking_ to be overrun by the unkillable undead hordes.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/31 "2013-06-26T01:34:15Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Wouldn’t carving a cross in the bullet do the same thing, and a lot cheaper?

Perhaps a Magen David.  
😉  
G-d, I miss the Jewish smiley!

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/32 "2013-06-26T01:55:20Z")

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The other stupid thing about this is that the people making the bullets don’t even believe in Allah\* or the rules Muslims follow. So what freaking difference does it make? The terrorist dies and ends up standing in front of the Christian version of the Sky Daddy and they’re already fucked because-- HELLO, Muslim terrorist. So what good did the pork do?

The only way this would remotely make sense is if the Muslims are right and pork _is_ prohibited, in which case the bullet makers are fucked and Allah sends the righteous freedom fighters to Heaven with their 72 virgins. I mean, I’m pretty sure Allah isn’t going to keep one of his martyrs out of Heaven because some infidel shot them with a pork bullet.

It’s just stupid from every angle.  
\*yes, I know Allah is the same God, but the assholes making these bullets don’t agree

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/33 "2013-06-26T02:06:28Z")

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> [@davidw](#):
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> There’s this, about [the 1857 Mutiny in India](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857):

Deliberately biting on a pork bullet and getting shot by someone else’s pork bullet are two very different things (as the bishop said to the actress).

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/34 "2013-06-26T02:09:46Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> … to use against the kind of assholes who believe that they get 72 virgins in exchange for blowing up a hotel.

'Cause that’s totally what Muslims really believe.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/35 "2013-06-26T02:27:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Wouldn’t carving a cross in the bullet do the same thing, and a lot cheaper?

You’re thinking vampires. Back in my Champions RPG days, my dark-clad avenger of the night used a gun with cross-hatched silver bullets filled with holy water, and had them blessed. He called them “Ghostbusters.” It was that kind of campaign.

Perhaps these guys are just making these bullets because the DHS won’t buy them; they’ll have something on the shelves for gun advocates to buy.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/36 "2013-06-26T02:53:39Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> 'Cause that’s totally what Muslims really believe.

Not all Muslims are terrorists.  
Most Muslims are not terrorists.  
Most Muslims are disgusted by terrorists.  
Most would even say that terrorists are an affront to Islam.

Please stop equating terrorism with Islam.  
The type of people who would commit acts of terrorism are the ones who believe that they will be rewarded with 72 virgins.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/37 "2013-06-26T03:05:42Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> The other stupid thing about this is that the people making the bullets don’t even believe in Allah\* or the rules Muslims follow. So what freaking difference does it make?

Imagine a handler talking to his suicide bomber recruit.

Handler: So we just need you to smuggle this backpack after dark past the guard station.  
Recruit: Ok. Isn’t the guard armed?  
H: Yeah, but if he shoots you, you go right to heaven and get 72 virgins.  
R: Awesome!

So the Recruit approaches the target and sees a sign that says:  
“Caution: Armed guard uses pork bullets.”

At this point, does the recruit say “Aw spit! Instead of 72 virgins, I am going to get filled with pork and suffer eternal damnation!” and turn around and run away?

In other words in the mind of a terrorist (and, no, **njtt** , this is not the mind of a typical Muslim) does the possibility of being shot with pork bullets have a deterrent effect?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/38 "2013-06-26T03:36:26Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> Not all Muslims are terrorists.

Le whoosh, I believe.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/39 "2013-06-26T03:47:53Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Le whoosh, I believe.

Wish it were that simple. Lots of very ignorant people with correspondingly closed minds who may be willing to grant that Muslim does not EQUAL terrorist, but the violence and contradictions in their OWN holy books aside, Muslims are at best terrorist sympathizers.

People who find that website funny does USUALLY equal ignorant xenophobe. I’d lay Vegas odds.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-company-makes-pork-infused-bullets-for-jihadists/661890/40 "2013-06-26T03:51:39Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> Not all Muslims are terrorists.

If it’s any consolation, not all Catholics are child molesters, but that bird’s pretty much flown for the ignorant, too. And heck, in this very thread someone’s claimed that being an American makes you stupid. So there’s plenty to go around.

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