# "Idaho to require abortion providers give personal details on their patients"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 23, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091 "2018-03-23T21:04:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/1 "2018-03-23T21:04:49Z")

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[WTF??](http://thehill.com/regulation/healthcare/379992-idaho-to-require-women-getting-abortions-provide-personal-details)

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> Under a new law, Idaho will require abortion providers to report personal details about their patients, including how many times they’ve had the procedure in the past.
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> Gov. Butch Otter (R) signed a bill into law on Thursday that will require abortion providers to collect data on women’s personal and health details, The Associated Press reported Friday.
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> The report will include the woman’s age, race, number of children, if any of their children have died and the number of their past abortions.
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> The legislation also requires medical practitioners to report a list of any possible abortion complications, including infection, blood clot, hemorrhaging, depression, anxiety and sleeping disorders  
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Why not just paint an A on their foreheads? Or make them wear red skirts? This is just plain uncivilized.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/2 "2018-03-23T21:09:17Z")

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How in the hell is this even enforceable? Won’t HIPPA overrule this?

This is headed for Federal Court, and I predict it will be struck down.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/3 "2018-03-23T21:54:17Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> How in the hell is this even enforceable? Won’t HIPPA overrule this?
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> This is headed for Federal Court, and I predict it will be struck down.

You’re probably right and he’s just doing this to score points with the righteous evangelicals.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/4 "2018-03-23T22:03:46Z")

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It sounds like the data collected doesn’t identify the patients directly, so that may not violate HIPAA.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/5 "2018-03-23T22:39:56Z")

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Report it to _who?_

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/6 "2018-03-23T22:44:39Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> It sounds like the data collected doesn’t identify the patients directly, so that may not violate HIPAA.

There’s enough details in what they have to report that someone could likely easily figure out who the patients are. So even though the name is left out, it could be construed as indentifying those patients.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/7 "2018-03-23T22:54:03Z")

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From the AP:

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> The state would compile the information for an annual report and make it available to the Legislature and the public, but identifying information would not be revealed.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/8 "2018-03-23T23:02:42Z")

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Sounds like somebody’s looking for a way to drum up hysteria.

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**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idaho-to-require-abortion-providers-give-personal-details-on-their-patients/811091/9 "2018-03-24T03:17:22Z")

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And it looks like I may have to stop by a gynecologist, or two, on my summer trip through the potato state. I am happy to be added to their list of abortion recipients… after being in several experimental vasectomy studies, I don’t have anything to lose.

Now I just need to find a cooperative doctor who will give a sterile man a complementary abortion.
