# Idea for Heinlein Series

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 25, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715 "2018-06-25T17:07:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/21 "2018-06-26T12:01:55Z")

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I’d like to see an accurate to the book movie of _Puppet Masters_.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/22 "2018-06-26T15:20:01Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> No, gentlemen.
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> It starts and ends with “Have Space Suit Will Travel”.
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> You’ve got the lesson in education, the fun montage of building the suit. You’ve also got the ‘lonely kids vs the aliens’ and in the end you have that dramatic reveal of the Milky Way.

I love the book, one of my all-time favorites, but I don’t know if it would work without the 1950s vibe.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/23 "2018-06-26T15:25:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> This. I wouldn’t trust Hollywood with any of the novels, but they could go nuts with some of the short stories.

Having watched what Hollywood did with his short story “Jerry was a Man” on _Masters of Science Fiction_, I’m not sure I’d trust them even with his short stories.

On the other hand, Hollywood took his short story “All you Zombies” and turned out the halfway decent film _Predestination_ based on it, so there may be hope for them yet.

> **[Predestination (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film))**
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> Predestination is a 2014 Australian science fiction action-thriller film written and directed by Michael and Peter Spierig. The film stars Ethan Hawke, Sarah Snook, and Noah Taylor, and is based on the 1959 short story " '—All You Zombies—' " by Robert A. Heinlein.
> In March 1975, an agent, while trying to stop a bombing in a public building in New York City, is caught in a gunfight. The bomb detonates causing severe burns to the agent. Someone unseen helps him grasp his time-travel device, w...

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/24 "2018-06-26T16:55:02Z")

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Our earlier thread on _Predestination_ (which I agree was pretty good): [Predestination: New Heinlein movie has been made [edited title] - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=735650)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/25 "2018-06-26T17:19:33Z")

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Was _Predestination_ Hollywood? I thought that it was an indie production.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/26 "2018-06-26T17:21:09Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Was _Predestination_ Hollywood? I thought that it was an indie production.

I’m using “Hollywood” as verbal shorthand for “the movie industry”. I don’t think it was any major studio.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/27 "2018-06-26T18:13:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And _Starship Troopers_ with powered armor, dammit.

And caps. What’s a Cap Trooper without his cap?

> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I love the book, one of my all-time favorites, but I don’t know if it would work without the 1950s vibe.

I agree. So set it in an alternate universe circa 1955 where things are not… quite the same.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/28 "2018-06-26T18:23:40Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Was _Predestination_ Hollywood? I thought that it was an indie production.

Yes, although distributed by Stage 6 Films, an arm of Sony: [Predestination (film) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film))

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/29 "2018-06-26T21:10:55Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I agree. So set it in an alternate universe circa 1955 where things are not… quite the same.

A series based on the Future History stories might be good, but done in an alternate 1940s/50s timeline. Kind of radiopunk. You could have episodes for the interesting stories, with Lazarus Long as a connecting character.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/30 "2018-06-26T21:19:59Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I agree. So set it in an alternate universe circa 1955 where things are not… quite the same.

That would be so incredibly awesome.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mr.Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Bill)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/31 "2018-06-26T23:08:49Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> Well, that doesn’t fit my mental image of LL.
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> Needs somebody on the craggy side but raffishly handsome, and maybe a redhead (or would look good as a redhead). And must have a deadly stare…somebody like Clint Eastwood but younger.  
> I dunno…Ed Harris, maybe?

I’m thinking Kevin McKidd would make a great Lazarus Long.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/32 "2018-06-27T00:55:48Z")

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> [@Mr.Bill](#):
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> I’m thinking Kevin McKidd would make a great Lazarus Long.

I can see him as LL.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/33 "2018-06-27T01:53:34Z")

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As long as we’re wishing, how about “Double Star”?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/34 "2018-06-27T02:16:14Z")

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I don’t think there is a cable channel or movie studio that is going to want anything to do with the positive portrayal of incest that is part of Lazarus Long’s story.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/35 "2018-06-27T03:16:50Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> As long as we’re wishing, how about “Double Star”?

Hasn’t _Double Star_ been done? I seem to recall that it’s been attempted, anyway.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/36 "2018-06-27T03:22:46Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Hasn’t _Double Star_ been done? I seem to recall that it’s been attempted, anyway.

The version with Ronald Coleman, or the version with Stewart Granger? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/37 "2018-06-27T04:10:01Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> I don’t think there is a cable channel or movie studio that is going to want anything to do with the positive portrayal of incest that is part of Lazarus Long’s story.

but… oh. _Positive_ portrayal.

Never mind.

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**Author:** ![CurrlyD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CurrlyD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurrlyD)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/38 "2018-06-27T04:30:30Z")

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I’d like to see Citizen of the Galaxy made into a movie. For a TV series, my vote for the pilot would be The Green Hills of Earth.

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/39 "2018-06-27T14:07:46Z")

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I know it was panned by a lot of Heinlein fans but I think Friday would make a great Netflix short series. Strong female lead, drones, murder, transplanetary travel, and contractual polygamy.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/idea-for-heinlein-series/816715/40 "2018-06-27T16:52:07Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> I’d like to see an accurate to the book movie of _Puppet Masters_.

Puppet Masters (the original version that was serialized) was a very, very scary. I loved that story. It had lots of twists and turns to it. It needs to be done. It’s very topical even today.

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