# Ideas as wise as ground zero mosque

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349 "2010-08-25T00:58:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/81 "2010-08-26T01:01:53Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> > [@FE3O4ENAIL](#):
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> > Oh great, now I am a dipshit and my joke has a stupid premise.  
> > :eek:…
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> At last, you’re not wrong.

Ohh!

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**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/82 "2010-08-26T01:05:32Z")

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So you got nothing? No tribal killing, no ethnic cleansing, that you can poke fun at? Come on it’s Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/83 "2010-08-26T01:37:07Z")

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Yes, the example in the OP was faulty, but this joke structure has merit, IMHO.

I can’t think of any, though. Maybe later.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/84 "2010-08-26T01:59:52Z")

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> [@heatmiserfl](#):
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> > [@Quercus](#):
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> > Even better if the display of intolerance is supported by ‘The Tolerance Museum’ [museum\_of\_tolerance\_director\_opposes\_mosque](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/museum_of_tolerance_director_opposes_mosque_but_bu.php)
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> Could this be real? Incredible! From your link:
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> > [@](#):
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> > ‘Museum Of Tolerance’ Director Opposes Mosque But Built Museum On Muslim Cemetery
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> > …  
> > “Religious freedom does not mean being insensitive…or an idiot,” Rabbi Meyer May, the Wiesenthal Center’s executive director, told Crain’s New York.
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> > “Religion is supposed to be beautiful,” he said. “Why create pain in the name of religion?”
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> > It’s a topic he knows something about. The Wiesenthal Center caused an uproar in for building one of its Museums of Tolerance on top of an old Muslim burial ground in Jerusalem.
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> > The building of that museum has “resulted in digging up the remains of people who had been buried in a Muslim cemetery for generations,” according to City University professor Marnia Lazreg. Indeed, in 2006, workers dug up bones, and an Arab group sued to stop the project from going forward.

Actually, while it is pretty nearly as bad, the TPM people have an error in this story.

The Wiesenthal Center is a primary source of funding for the Museum of Tolerance, but the actual Museum of Tolerance, in New York, is a separate organization, none of whose members have (yet) made as stupid a statement as Rabbi May. The story about the Muslim cemetary in Jerusalem is broadly true, although, given the reporter’s inability to distinguish between the Museum of Tolerance and the Wiesenthal Center, I am not sure which organization was involved in that mess.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/85 "2010-08-26T02:07:11Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Islam had nothing to do with 9/11.

Brain surgeon had a few tokes too many, huh?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/86 "2010-08-26T02:17:29Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Islam had nothing to do with 9/11.

Oh, a different game. Okay, I’ll play:

Naziism had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/87 "2010-08-26T02:30:27Z")

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Youi’re deep. If you go jump in the lake, youi’ll be deeper. And if you go fuck yourself, youi’ll probably be the best you ever had.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/88 "2010-08-26T02:34:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Youi’re deep. If you go jump in the lake, youi’ll be deeper. And if you go fuck yourself, youi’ll probably be the best you ever had.

Oooh, a windtalker.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/89 "2010-08-26T02:35:27Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> George W. Bush Library in Baghdad.

Libary 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/90 "2010-08-26T02:44:38Z")

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The Rainn Wilson Wedding Planning Company.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/91 "2010-08-26T03:30:06Z")

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[http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheetbrains/2431128970/](http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheetbrains/2431128970/)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/92 "2010-08-26T03:36:18Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> > Islam had nothing to do with 9/11.
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> Oh, a different game. Okay, I’ll play:
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> Naziism had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

The comparison doesn’t work. “Islam” is a disunited religion that is no more capable of being behind a single action than Christianity is. Nazism was both a specific party and a specific ideology, and was perfectly capable of having and carrying out plans that could be blamed on it.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/93 "2010-08-26T03:50:02Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@magellan01](#):
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> > Oh, a different game. Okay, I’ll play:
> > 
> > Naziism had nothing to do with the Holocaust.
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> The comparison doesn’t work. “Islam” is a disunited religion that is no more capable of being behind a single action than Christianity is. Nazism was both a specific party and a specific ideology, and was perfectly capable of having and carrying out plans that could be blamed on it.

A better example would be perhaps Islam fundies/extremists? (The equivalent of abortion clinic bombers, only on a much larger scale, considering the targets this time)

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/94 "2010-08-26T04:24:26Z")

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In Australia we have at least one airport and one airport location named after people who died in air crashes, [Kingsford Smith](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Airport) in Sydney and [Fairbairn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbairn,_Canberra) in Canberra.

We also have a swimming pool named after a Prime Minister who drowned, [Harold Holt](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt#Memorials).

Long live the great Australian art of taking the piss.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/95 "2010-08-26T04:30:48Z")

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> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#):
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> Long live the great Australian art of taking the piss.

Not in the pool, I hope. 😛

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/96 "2010-08-26T04:42:11Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> > [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#):
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> > Long live the great Australian art of taking the piss.
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> Not in the pool, I hope. 😛

That’s taking _a_ piss, not taking _the_ piss. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/97 "2010-08-26T05:51:56Z")

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Catholic Day Care Centers … they WHAT?

You’re KIDDING!!!

That explains a lot!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/98 "2010-08-26T05:53:05Z")

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Ground Zero bungee jumping stand?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/99 "2010-08-26T06:33:14Z")

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> [@Shawn1767](#):
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> A Catholic seminary near an all-boys’ school. After all, if we’re going to blame all the members of a religion for the actions of a portion, then this would seem apt.

Some Catholic seminaries _are_ all-boys’ schools; in fact, that is what they traditionally were.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ideas-as-wise-as-ground-zero-mosque/551349/100 "2010-08-26T11:34:17Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@magellan01](#):
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> > Oh, a different game. Okay, I’ll play:
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> > Naziism had nothing to do with the Holocaust.
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> The comparison doesn’t work. “Islam” is a disunited religion that is no more capable of being behind a single action than Christianity is. Nazism was both a specific party and a specific ideology, and was perfectly capable of having and carrying out plans that could be blamed on it.

Christianity had nothig to do with the Crusades?

Christianity had nothig to do with pedophile priests?

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